What's new

2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

I'm ok with not swinging for the fences on Conley.

I hope the Jazz are kicking every tire possible on Jrue Holiday though, even if the Pellies say he's not being traded.
 
It's a realistic strategy that's proven to work for small market franchises time and time again. And I don't see why we can't get a guy with high upside like Satoransky and hope he develops into the star we need.
Will he be a RFA? Washington matched for Porter Jr. No reason to think they wouldn't match for Satoransky. They could then trade him later. I'm betting they won't keep Parker; he has a team option for next year. They're now in decent shape salary-wise: $65K for Wall and Beal, but can fill out the roster nicely, even if they have to overpay for Satoransky.
 
Will he be a RFA? Washington matched for Porter Jr. No reason to think they wouldn't match for Satoransky. They could then trade him later. I'm betting they won't keep Parker; he has a team option for next year. They're now in decent shape salary-wise: $65K for Wall and Beal, but can fill out the roster nicely, even if they have to overpay for Satoransky.
yeah it gets tougher after the Porter deal. Signing free agents is never a easy process. Our hope is that Satoranaky prefers to play somewhere for a starting role, which we can give him. And WAS doesn't feel like overpaying again after paying the price on the Porter/Wall deals. I get it when they decided to overpay Porter cuz he is their starting SF. But Sato won't be anything more than a backup as long as they hold on to both Beal and Wall. But he can start over Rubio on this Jazz team right now.
 
If Conley really doesnt want to play here then we wont bring him in.

We arent like that. We are molly good gum ball drop ferries. We dont push buttons.
 
I'm really unsure about Lowry, here's a quick summary of the pros and cons that I have both from watching him and checking the stats

+ He clearly makes the Raptors better from an eye test standpoint, and his on/off stats support that. Raptors are +14 points per 100 better with him on the floor vs off
+ Despite having a down year his TS% is still far better than Rubios on the season
+ He's a great floor general on both sides of the ball
+ His contract situation isn't as bad as you'd think, he gets paid $33 mil next season sure but it's a $33 mil expiring and it expires the offseason before the Jazz will be giving Mitchell his (super)max. So unlike guys like Conley/Griffin/Love, you're not locking yourself into that core once Mitchell gets his max, you'll have an offseason after Lowry is off the books to figure it out before giving him the extension later that year in October.
+ Lowry has a fantastic 3.23 AST/TO ratio.
+ He does a lot of little things/dirty work that a lot of players don't want to do.
+ He's fine in a slower pace system like the Jazz.

- He might be even worse than Rubio when it comes to getting into the paint. Lowry has higher %s on shots there, but the dude has a lower % of points in the paint (26.1%) than Rubio (30.7%) does for the season relative to where they score their points in general, and the inability to get easy looks in the paint has been one of my criticisms of the Jazz in general. For a comparison, DM gets 42.8% of his points in the paint, Jrue Holiday gets 53.1% of his points in the paint (largely unassisted too btw), and Exum gets 56.9% of his points in the paint.
- His 3pt shooting has fell of a cliff this year all the way down to 32.6% on the season. Whether that's an anomoly or that's him starting to get old is a real concern for a guy who as previously mentioned doesn't get into the paint much (see next point)
- Lowry has missed time already this season with a back injury, and this report suggests that his back issues will be plaguing him all season. Do the Jazz really want to give up Rubio/Favs and draft compensation for a guy who isn't 100%?
- $33 mil is expiring but it's still a lot of cap to have soaked up in one guy next season if he's not all that good/injured.
- He's been known to become a non-factor in playoff games before.
 
Pretty normal jazz trade scenarios. They have their ONE guy and ONE price and be damned if there is any kind of secondary target. Just like with Hayward, wait out the one single target and don't deviate at all. Conley for a fixed price or nothing. The jazz fo is obviously very content being a "good" team. Staying "competitive" while never swinging for the fences. So many really good players, who could have absolutely helped us more than a little bit, moved in the last 3 days, and we do jack ****. It's getting old.

Idiot take. You know nothing about what is actually happening behind the scenes. None of us do.


Sent from my iPhone using JazzFanz
 
Lowry has back problems and is currently getting injections for it. He doesn't quite look the same and the fans here in Toronto have kinda turned on him
 
glad I will sleep in a few hours and wake up after deadline. Just want it to be over lol


Sent from my iPhone using JazzFanz
 
Holy semantics Batman. You are correct.

Utah/Deseret/Mormon Country was pro slavery until the end of the civil war. They bought and sold slaves and captured Native Americans and sold them as slaves. They attempted genocide on a group of Native Americans. They passed laws legalizing slavery. They taught in their churches that slavery was of god.
You don't have to be a smart ***. You twice stated that Utah was a slave state. It was not even a state nor was it counted as a slave state. I agree with the treatment of slaves and Native Americans. I was simply trying to clarify your statement.
 

Eric Woodyard


Joe Ingles calls the Jazz’s trade rumors a “sh*ty situation” for the names of guys in discussion. “It’s not good for anyone especially when you’ve got such a tight group of guys that want to be here, that enjoy being here and play well together so we’ll see what happens,” he said

This is the reason why we will never win anything.
I'm sure Ingles knows Rubio wants to stay with the Jazz and he is trying to favor his friend.
By the way Ingles is not spokesman, he should focus in hitting 3s.
I don't care about the tight group but this teams has to be improved.

Jabari, Tobias Harris, Harrison Barnes, Otto Porter were all available but LD is continuing to sleep.

Don't touch Exum.
 
Last edited:
This is the reason why we will never win anything.
I'm sure Ingles knows Rubio wants to stay with the Jazz and he is trying to favor his friend.

Guys like Favors can't have it both ways. If you love the team so much, either learn how to stretch the floor or don't accept a freaking $17 million deal. If Favors was making Exum's contract, there is no chance we are trying to trade him if he wants to be here.

As for Rubio, I think we need to use his big expiring to upgrade the team then bring him back this summer using the MLE. I don't want to lose him, but I also don't want to lose an asset if we can get it.

Change is tough but sometimes necessary.

Sent from my VS995 using JazzFanz mobile app
 
Top