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For all the nonsense talk of AK staying to "help us win" and being here for "the right price" I think we've misplaced this and that Memo is really the one who not only should we keep at the right price when the time comes but more than likely will come at the right price in addition to actually being capable of not only taking a lesser role but being okay with it. There has been a lot of Memo hate ever since the contract extension. I think it's good to look at our team for the past 5 or so years. Despite having some problems, we really were a good team. Let's look at some of the players we've had over that period of time...

Carlos Boozer
Andrei Kirilenko
Matt Harpring
Deron Williams
Gordan Giricek
Devin Brown
Milt Palacio
Keith McLeod
Jarron Collins
CJ Miles
Kris Humphries
Greg Ostertag
Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Araujo
Dee Brown
Kyle Korver
Ronnie Price
Jason Hart
Fesenko
Raja Bell
Morris Almond
Brevin Knight
Kosta Koufos
Wesley Matthews
Memo

A couple people were left off this list but for obvious reasons. Now, we can take this list and distill it down to players who would actually fit in to a really good team concept and bring positivity and aren't selfish players:

Matt Harpring
Jarron Collins
CJ Miles
Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Kyle Korver
Ronnie Price
Brevin Knight
Wesley Matthews
Memo

On the above list, you have a few exceptions in there that technically fulfill criteria but may not be applicable for reasons such as aren't in the league (Harpring, Knight) dont' fit criteria for a negative but also don't fit criteria for a positive (Miles) and then those fit criteria but lack talent (Collins, Price). This reduces this to:

Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Kyle Korver
Wesley Matthews
Memo

Despite the way he left, I think Fisher was a huge positive for our team (off the court) while he was here and I think a big part of our WCF run. Millsap is on our roster currently, so it's not necessary to discuss him. Ronnie Brewer is a pretty positive guy and I think he makes a positive impact on a team with regard to chemistry and attitude. Kyle Korver ditto with Brewer. Wesley Matthews is gone. If you throw in guys from this year like Jefferson and Harris then that can also be evaluated as to what they bring. Jefferson, I think, fits more into the mold of a CJ Miles in that he's not a negative for chemistry by any stretch of the imagination, but he's not necessarily leading or setting an excample, either. Hopefully we see more this year. I know little about Harris. Sounds like he could be a positive guy.

Anyway, I think it's doubtful Memo gets traded since the only way we deal him is if we're receiving more salary in return (since that's why he'd be valuable). I think he's the perfect guy to bring back since I think he can actually be productive in a limited role (shooting) and can be a positive guy with real experience off the bench. I don't share any of these feelings about Kirilenko.

A few positives about Memo:

-Before his recent injury problems he was always our healthiest guy.
-He's never played for his stats.
-He's never complained.
-He's never been anything but positive.
-Whenever Boozer was out he always stepped up big time (in '05-'06 he put up 18/9, the next year 18/7, '08-'09 17/8)
-Deron and Memo were the only guys we had that would always come through in crunch time.
-Outside of Nowitzki there is no other player his size that can shoot the ball the way he can, a skill that I doubt is going to decline much with his age.

Official 2012 re-sign Memo campaign.

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infection said:
For all the nonsense talk of AK staying to "help us win" and being here for "the right price" I think we've misplaced this and that Memo is really the one who not only should we keep at the right price when the time comes but more than likely will come at the right price in addition to actually being capable of not only taking a lesser role but being okay with it. There has been a lot of Memo hate ever since the contract extension. I think it's good to look at our team for the past 5 or so years. Despite having some problems, we really were a good team. Let's look at some of the players we've had over that period of time...

Carlos Boozer
Andrei Kirilenko
Matt Harpring
Deron Williams
Gordan Giricek
Devin Brown
Milt Palacio
Keith McLeod
Jarron Collins
CJ Miles
Kris Humphries
Greg Ostertag
Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Araujo
Dee Brown
Kyle Korver
Ronnie Price
Jason Hart
Fesenko
Raja Bell
Morris Almond
Brevin Knight
Kosta Koufos
Wesley Matthews
Memo

A couple people were left off this list but for obvious reasons. Now, we can take this list and distill it down to players who would actually fit in to a really good team concept and bring positivity and aren't selfish players:

Matt Harpring
Jarron Collins
CJ Miles
Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Kyle Korver
Ronnie Price
Brevin Knight
Wesley Matthews
Memo

On the above list, you have a few exceptions in there that technically fulfill criteria but may not be applicable for reasons such as aren't in the league (Harpring, Knight) dont' fit criteria for a negative but also don't fit criteria for a positive (Miles) and then those fit criteria but lack talent (Collins, Price). This reduces this to:

Derek Fisher
Paul Millsap
Ronnie Brewer
Kyle Korver
Wesley Matthews
Memo

Despite the way he left, I think Fisher was a huge positive for our team (off the court) while he was here and I think a big part of our WCF run. Millsap is on our roster currently, so it's not necessary to discuss him. Ronnie Brewer is a pretty positive guy and I think he makes a positive impact on a team with regard to chemistry and attitude. Kyle Korver ditto with Brewer. Wesley Matthews is gone. If you throw in guys from this year like Jefferson and Harris then that can also be evaluated as to what they bring. Jefferson, I think, fits more into the mold of a CJ Miles in that he's not a negative for chemistry by any stretch of the imagination, but he's not necessarily leading or setting an excample, either. Hopefully we see more this year. I know little about Harris. Sounds like he could be a positive guy.

Anyway, I think it's doubtful Memo gets traded since the only way we deal him is if we're receiving more salary in return (since that's why he'd be valuable). I think he's the perfect guy to bring back since I think he can actually be productive in a limited role (shooting) and can be a positive guy with real experience off the bench. I don't share any of these feelings about Kirilenko.

A few positives about Memo:

-Before his recent injury problems he was always our healthiest guy.
-He's never played for his stats.
-He's never complained.
-He's never been anything but positive.
-Whenever Boozer was out he always stepped up big time (in '05-'06 he put up 18/9, the next year 18/7, '08-'09 17/8)
-Deron and Memo were the only guys we had that would always come through in crunch time.
-Outside of Nowitzki there is no other player his size that can shoot the ball the way he can, a skill that I doubt is going to decline much with his age.

Official 2012 re-sign Memo campaign.

/rant
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I agreed %100
 
So does any one think Memo has Kanter stay at his home for his rookie season?
That would be perfect for Kanter.
Memo can help Kanter stay out of trouble and Kanter enjoys some good Turkish cooking till he can fend for himself.
 
slc said:
So does any one think Memo has Kanter stay at his home for his rookie season?
That would be perfect for Kanter.
Memo can help Kanter stay out of trouble and Kanter enjoys some good Turkish cooking till he can fend for himself.
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That may all depend on if Enes doesn't get to friendly with Memo's wife :)
I'm sure it may be a good place to be for Enes to get settled into Salt Lake and the surroundings. I don't think he would be opposed to it.
 
Well put infection. Agree % 100. I am almost hoping that since we are so young without a dloor leader at the point that Memo takes his sweet time coming back, spends the season getting back into game shape and signs on for a much more cheaper price. If he plays well this season, and I see no reason for him not to if he is healthy, I am afraid that a contending club will sign him for the mid-level exception. He is everything those types of teams are looking for. Experienced, non-complaining good guy, a great teammate, a team first attitude, a hard working veteran who can shoot and hit the big shot during crunch time who can grab a few big rebounds.
 
slc said:
So does any one think Memo has Kanter stay at his home for his rookie season?
That would be perfect for Kanter.
Memo can help Kanter stay out of trouble and Kanter enjoys some good Turkish cooking till he can fend for himself.
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If Yeliz is a cougar, then NO.

Memo is going to be a great mentor for Enes. I was so impressed by the interview with Okur. He said all the rights things, talked about what it takes to be successful. I think Okur would accept a deal at $5M/per for the next 3-4 years to be a backup and give 15 mins/per or whatever the Jazz need. Having Memo around also increases Kanter's loyalty to the organization and community as Okur can introduce him to all those in Utah with Turkish roots. Sure, there won't be as many as in a major city, but hopefully Kanter develops some strong friendships early in his career.

Memo respects the team and the organization. Every team needs veterans like that, even if they don't get major minutes. We don;t have a 3-pt specialist any more. Maybe Memo fills that role. Late in games if you need the offense you have Memo, Hayward and even Millsap as 3-pt threats, with Harris and Burks both available to drive and kick if the defense collapses on them.
 
utah can really be a more solid team compared to 07' Western Conferance Finalist's team and memo can still be a key player in "our" team. he is sunbathing in turkey right now but unfortunately, his thoughts about staying is not clear. he says he would help enes (an-***, an-as) by giving his best but he talks uncertain about his future in utah which i really feel sad about.
 
Where did you see or hear that fufo? He has always said that he wants to finish his career as a Jazzman. He calls Salt Lake City his home away from home, and now reading your post I was shocked.
 
GlassEater said:
If Yeliz is a cougar, then NO.

Memo is going to be a great mentor for Enes. I was so impressed by the interview with Okur. He said all the rights things, talked about what it takes to be successful. I think Okur would accept a deal at $5M/per for the next 3-4 years to be a backup and give 15 mins/per or whatever the Jazz need. Having Memo around also increases Kanter's loyalty to the organization and community as Okur can introduce him to all those in Utah with Turkish roots. Sure, there won't be as many as in a major city, but hopefully Kanter develops some strong friendships early in his career.

Memo respects the team and the organization. Every team needs veterans like that, even if they don't get major minutes. We don;t have a 3-pt specialist any more. Maybe Memo fills that role. Late in games if you need the offense you have Memo, Hayward and even Millsap as 3-pt threats, with Harris and Burks both available to drive and kick if the defense collapses on them.
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The only problem is 5 mil a year right now is too much for Memo. Now if he proves that he can stay healthy and plays near his former level it would be great.
 
fufo said:
utah can really be a more solid team compared to 07' Western Conferance Finalist's team and memo can still be a key player in "our" team. he is sunbathing in turkey right now but unfortunately, his thoughts about staying is not clear. he says he would help enes (an-***, an-as) by giving his best but he talks uncertain about his future in utah which i really feel sad about.
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he never told he will stay 100% but he mentioned many times, he wanna end his career in utah and wanna see his uniform retired at the top of the court. If there wont be a big margin between what memo wants (salary) and what utah offers, he will probably stay.
And logically, he already has a ring, and he is in utah for long long time, so its like his real home. He wouldnt like to change his life suddenly. He will stay unless utah offers 1-2 million a year.
 
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