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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

So many players can give you 20/10 on any given night if they get the minutes and the touches.

What you want is an efficient 20/10 on a consistent basis. Also want a guy to be on the court who also isn't over the hill who also isn't on a max deal.
Ain't getting that from love


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Just last year Love had 61,4% TS, that's a very efficient for a player who doesn't just dunk the ball around the rim.
He was 22/12 per 36 min, or 17/9 per actual numbers. That's better than Favors easily. How is he over the hill? Love does't have to outjump players to get his. Age is not a killing factor for his game. He's one of the few options to get quality with Utah's grade C assets. Beggers can't be choosers in the trade market.
 
So we trade our backup PG, a shooting wing, an emerging PG/SG, a young cheap C and a pick so we can pay $72+ million on 3 guys who all should probably be playing C?

Think about next year:

Love $30+
Gobert $25
Favors $17+

Why?

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Why? Because we can afford it still, no tax. And we remain top heavy, we add quality and build on 50 win team.
None of the players in my proposal expect KK for half season contributed to the 50 win team. Consolidate your dimes to get a dollar.
 
Why? Because we can afford it still, no tax. And we remain top heavy, we add quality and build on 50 win team.
None of the players in my proposal expect KK for half season contributed to the 50 win team. Consolidate your dimes to get a dollar.
If you did the deal using Favors while keeping Grayson and Korver, I can understand it better. Having Favors, Love and Gobert is spending too much money on big bigs when we'll need guys to spread the floor while Love posts up.

I might consider Favors, Exum, 2 2nd rounders for Love and #26. Cleveland owns Houston's 1st this year. Maybe Favors and Exum for Love.

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Love was maybe worth a pick before the season started... then he missed 60 games... and wasn’t good in the 22 he played... if we are going down that road they can get a couple seconds and salary relief mix in Dante and Bradley as “prospects”. If they can flip the salary relief for picks then good for them.

That contract is one injury from being completely untradeable. Love doesn’t address our need for more creation and defensively he will cause some issues.

If he was a free agent this year what would you guess he gets offered? 3/60? Maybe 4/80 with some non-guaranteed money in final year? 4/120 is atrocious... I realize it is late and the bar is closing but I’d rather go home alone than take the ugly girl home and she ends up pregnant and you stuck long term.
 
If you did the deal using Favors while keeping Grayson and Korver, I can understand it better. Having Favors, Love and Gobert is spending too much money on big bigs when we'll need guys to spread the floor while Love posts up.

I might consider Favors, Exum, 2 2nd rounders for Love and #26. Cleveland owns Houston's 1st this year. Maybe Favors and Exum for Love.

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Favors wins you more games than Korver and Allen. The END. I don't give a damn about the rest. Why would I care about a C grade prospect and 39 y.o. that's about to retire in a season ?
 
Favors wins you more games than Korver and Allen. The END. I don't give a damn about the rest. Why would I care about a C grade prospect and 39 y.o. that's about to retire in a season ?
You can't play Favors, Gobert, and Love all at the same time. Sure it would be cool to have Embiid, Gobert and Jokic, but that team would get run out the gym.

Korver and Grayson make $8 million less than Favors. Use that $8 million to add another player to support that post of Love and Gobert.

Like it or not, but Grayson is a major key to our future. If he can improve, our future is brighter than 3 bigs.

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You can't play Favors, Gobert, and Love all at the same time. Sure it would be cool to have Embiid, Gobert and Jokic, but that team would get run out the gym.

Korver and Grayson make $8 million less than Favors. Use that $8 million to add another player to support that post of Love and Gobert.

Like it or not, but Grayson is a major key to our future. If he can improve, our future is brighter than 3 bigs.

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What do you mean use the 8 mil difference to add another player. That's not how it works.

And that's your opinion on Grayson vs Favor. Sorry, I don't share it.

Again, after my trade proposal

Rubio/Mitch/Neto
Mitch/Royce
Joe/Jae
Love/Jae/Niang
Rudy/Favors

And depending on the Rubio's re-signing amount there should be even room to add MLE signing under luxury tax.

That's still one the deepest teams in the league plus added scoring. That's another step forward on 50 win season. And I still lol at Grayson being a difference maker in future, sorry.

P.S, you can barely play Gobert and Favors at the same time, but you still don't mind keeping him around. Because you like the depth. So tf is your problem with adding a stretch PF ?
 
What do you mean use the 8 mil difference to add another player. That's not how it works.

And that's your opinion on Grayson vs Favor. Sorry, I don't share it.

Again, after my trade proposal

Rubio/Mitch/Neto
Mitch/Royce
Joe/Jae
Love/Jae/Niang
Rudy/Favors

And depending on the Rubio's re-signing amount there should be even room to add MLE signing under luxury tax.

That's still one the deepest teams in the league plus added scoring. That's another step forward on 50 win season. And I still lol at Grayson being a difference maker in future, sorry.

P.S, you can barely play Gobert and Favors at the same time, but you still don't mind keeping him around. Because you like the depth. So tf is your problem with adding a stretch PF ?

I lol at Grayson at this point as well. Not as much as I lol at that lineup in your post though.

Rubio has to go.

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I lol at Grayson at this point as well. Not as much as I lol at that lineup in your post though.

Rubio has to go.

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Why? Just because you hate his guts and hairstyle? Sure if you can somehow add Beverly for MLE contract then I could see letting Rubio go, but otherwise I don't see any benefits. At the very least he's a good backup to Mitchell in future. I know he gives more ****s about Utah than Beverly who you may never even get here.

And please post your lineup ( a realistic one) and let me lol at it and poke holes in it.
 
Crowder for Bjelica

I can't get over the fact that Crowder shot 6.5 threes per game this season. We need a PF that can hit on a consistent basis. In my family we joke that Crowder hits shots every third game, and that's why he shoots 33%.
 
Why? Just because you hate his guts and hairstyle? Sure if you can somehow add Beverly for MLE contract then I could see letting Rubio go, but otherwise I don't see any benefits. At the very least he's a good backup to Mitchell in future. I know he gives more ****s about Utah than Beverly who you may never even get here.

And please post your lineup ( a realistic one) and let me lol at it and poke holes in it.
Hate Rubio's guts? Not at all. He seems to be a great guy.
I hate what he does to us offensively and defensively though.

I like how we almost always win when he doesn't play


As for a lineup. Take out Rubio and add in a guy who can shoot.
That was simple
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Crowder for Bjelica

I can't get over the fact that Crowder shot 6.5 threes per game this season. We need a PF that can hit on a consistent basis. In my family we joke that Crowder hits shots every third game, and that's why he shoots 33%.

Bjelica is very inconsistent player himself. He started the season blazing hot and so did his Kings, but then he hit a cold streak and so did the team's results and they missed the postseason. Bjelica isn't that great either.
 
Big picture, the nucleus of the team is still DM and Rudy. Ingles isn't "untouchable" but he should stay, we also wouldn't get great return for him in a trade.

3 glaring needs are as follows:

1) Upgrade at PG - Need a guy who can shoot and is going to handle bulk of PG duties, DM is better off the ball
2) Stretch/scoring 4 - Self-explanatory
3) General shooting across the floor

The PG is non-negotiable. Our PG rotation of Rubio (woof), Neto (permanently injured) and Exum (sigh) is untenable. Don't care if it's trade or free agency, DL needs to find a veteran immediately. I know George Hill had his own issues in '16 - '17 (he's certainly not the answer now), but when he was healthy, he was a high-caliber PG and made us a completely different team. The same quality of play at that spot next to DM with this group makes us a top 3 team in the West.

The PF spot is more interesting. Outside of Tobias I can't pinpoint who an ideal stretch 4 target would be. The Favors thing tough - he's had an awesome year and is a Jazz man through and through, but $18M is a lot to pay a big who can't play next to Rudy in the playoffs. In an ideal world, we pick up his option and move on from Crowder with an upgraded stretch big, but I doubt that's realistic.
 
Big picture, the nucleus of the team is still DM and Rudy. Ingles isn't "untouchable" but he should stay, we also wouldn't get great return for him in a trade.

3 glaring needs are as follows:

1) Upgrade at PG - Need a guy who can shoot and is going to handle bulk of PG duties, DM is better off the ball
2) Stretch/scoring 4 - Self-explanatory
3) General shooting across the floor

The PG is non-negotiable. Our PG rotation of Rubio (woof), Neto (permanently injured) and Exum (sigh) is untenable. Don't care if it's trade or free agency, DL needs to find a veteran immediately. I know George Hill had his own issues in '16 - '17 (he's certainly not the answer now), but when he was healthy, he was a high-caliber PG and made us a completely different team. The same quality of play at that spot next to DM with this group makes us a top 3 team in the West.

The PF spot is more interesting. Outside of Tobias I can't pinpoint who an ideal stretch 4 target would be. The Favors thing tough - he's had an awesome year and is a Jazz man through and through, but $18M is a lot to pay a big who can't play next to Rudy in the playoffs. In an ideal world, we pick up his option and move on from Crowder with an upgraded stretch big, but I doubt that's realistic.
Good post. I agree with most of what you are saying. I wish we could extend Favors at a lower number so we can just keep Crowder and Favors. I think they would both be great for depth if they cost $20 combined instead of $25+.

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Hate Rubio's guts? Not at all. He seems to be a great guy.
I hate what he does to us offensively and defensively though.

I like how we almost always win when he doesn't play


As for a lineup. Take out Rubio and add in a guy who can shoot.
That was simple
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Meh, He's got positive +/- rating on the season and even that was skewed by that easy schedule winning streak mid season that he missed injured.
(I'm sure you have no idea what I'm talking about since you don't even know where look up such info).

Also you don't have to play Rubio all the time, you can substitute him for a shooter during a game. He still carries value to a team as a playmaker. That's why he started on a 50 win team, whether you like it or hate it.
 
One scenario I could see...

If Memphis had it their way, they would end up outside the top 8. If that happens, they give their pick to Boston and they get to keep their upcoming picks. I think they go into tank mode which means Conley will be traded.

So Favors, Exum and #23 for Conley. We are still able to keep Rubio too if we want. This is the lineup I would go with in that scenario:

Conley, Rubio, Neto
Mitchell, Grayson
O'Neale, Korver
Ingles, Crowder, Niang
Gobert, Bradley

I think Ingles can play PF. O'Neale too. Crowder can, and Niang is improving. That new starting group features one of the best shooting lineups in the entire league.

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Meh, He's got positive +/- rating on the season and even that was skewed by that easy schedule winning streak mid season that he missed injured.
(I'm sure you have no idea what I'm talking about since you don't even know where look up such info).

Also you don't have to play Rubio all the time, you can substitute him for a shooter during a game. He still carries value to a team as a playmaker. That's why he started on a 50 win team, whether you like it or hate it.
Lol. He started on many non 50 win teams
He started on many lottery teams.
His plus minus gets skewed by playing with Ingles, Rudy, and DM for most of his minutes

I bet most jazz players have a positive plus minus. Wonder what Royce's plus minus was in the games he started in place of Rubio? Neto when starting for Rubio?

I watch the games. I see how the defense defends Rubio. I see what effect that has on the offense.

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Offensive win shares Rubio is dead last amongst our starters.
Defensive win shares Rubio is dead last amongst our starters.
VORP Rubio is dead last amongst our starters.

None of this is surprising btw



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1.Try to trade Exum: Exum + 1st 2019 jazz + swap rights 1st round 2020 x Louis Williams + Thornwell.
2. Forget top free agents wasting time.
3. Dedmon as reserve center.
4. Favors team option too expensive, dont execute it.
5. Look for cheap PF with goog 3p%. Wilson Chandler for example, or better.
6. Resign Ricky Rubio. A short contract, 1+1 type.
7.Gobert must waste his summer throwing threes. If our primary play is a Mitchell iso, like Anteto-Bucks, our center must stay outside the rim. All top centers in the league shot threes, Gobert no.
 
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