If you let Neto, Rubio, and all the FAs go, you're sitting at about $90M with Favors. Cap is something like $109M. You could free up a like $4M more by waiving Korver.For those in-the-know regarding our cap situation, would it be possible to sign Mirotic and Beverley whilst retaining Favors?
I know it depends on the market, but in theory?
While it would be great to get Kemba, I'm going to go with a more realistic off-season targets approach. I've always been against playing DM at the point, but, with the PG's that are available this off-season, I think putting DM at point and getting someone else to play shooting guard is a better route at this time. So, I would sign Terrance Ross to be the shooting guard with DM at the point. Then, if possible, and I don't know if it is since I'm terrible with the salary cap, sign Tobias Harris to be the starting stretch forward, re-sign Favors to be the backup center/power forward. I would play Crowder as the backup stretch forward and also backup shooting forward.
Does this make us a championship contender? Probably not, but, not a fan of the possible free agents that the Jazz could possibly get this year. So, here is my lineup:
DM/Exum/Neto
Ross/Royce
Ingles/Crowder/Royce
Harris/Crowder/Favors
Gobert/Favors
What is we waive Korver as well or he retires? Would that be enough to help?No, we definitely do not have enough cap space to get both Harris and Ross even if we waive Favors. If we keep Favors then we dont have enough room for Harris alone.
The Rox may have had an average defense for the year but they were top 5 after the ASG.
It would save us like $4M.What is we waive Korver as well or he retires? Would that be enough to help?
If you let Neto, Rubio, and all the FAs go, you're sitting at about $90M with Favors. Cap is something like $109M. You could free up a like $4M more by waiving Korver.
I think we can get a pretty approximate gauge on how DL values Niko (not much) but don't have an adequate gauge on how he values Love (and it would be fairly dynamic depending on how desperate things get [I anticipate they'll get desperate]), but I think we pony up a first and second for him, and probably Favors and Exum.Niko's value has likely taken a solid hit this year. I'd rather have Niko at 4/60-80 than burn assets to get Kevin Love on his terrible deal (I still think this is not happening). I doubt Niko is looking to stay in Milwaukee and they have bigger fish to fry.
What is we waive Korver as well or he retires? Would that be enough to help?
I think we can get a pretty approximate gauge on how DL values Niko (not much) but don't have an adequate gauge on how he values Love (and it would be fairly dynamic depending on how desperate things get [I anticipate they'll get desperate]), but I think we pony up a first and second for him, and probably Favors and Exum.
If Korver retires, we can have around $40 million in cap space. If we waive Korver, we'd have around $36. Now this number is without Rubio, Favors, Thabo, Neto and Udoh. The most realistic option for us in the summer is maximizing the money we have while we keep Favors. He's set to make around $17 if we pick up his team option. So if Korver retires and we keep Favors, I think we do the best we can with around $23 million.
We discussed it on this thread or another, but Jeremy Lamb should be a target if we miss out on Tobias, Kemba, etc. If Donovan can transition part time to PG, Exum can play some minutes and Grayson there as well, we could use a good all purpose wing like Lamb.
He could have had him twice for first round picks. So if you couple him not valuing him that high plus the fact that he can't "win the press conference" with Niko, it means he's shooting for something that he feels is a bit bigger. It's a lose-lose (from where he stands) would be my view.I think there was definite interest there. Couldn't match Milwaukee's offer for him this year (he wasn't even healthy when they traded him and we didn't have that many seconds). I think he values him and he's on the list of potential additions.
There are a lot of ways this could go and I think many of them end up in us being the best match for Niko (and vice versa).
When guys retire does the salary just come off the books? I'm trying to think about if this has happened.
tl;dr if DL thought Niko could really help us enough moving forward, he would have traded for him previously. Since I'm assuming that's the perspective DL is coming from, the fact that, in addition to him not believing he's that valuable to us, that he can't even win the press conference with that move, makes me think DL would rather toss out a draft asset for Love than bring in Niko. He could prove me wrong but I'm just not seeing it.He could have had him twice for first round picks. So if you couple him not valuing him that high plus the fact that he can't "win the press conference" with Niko, it means he's shooting for something that he feels is a bit bigger. It's a lose-lose (from where he stands) would be my view.
He could have had him twice for first round picks. So if you couple him not valuing him that high plus the fact that he can't "win the press conference" with Niko, it means he's shooting for something that he feels is a bit bigger. It's a lose-lose (from where he stands) would be my view.
Gotcha...thanks for clearing that up. I think I'd like Terrance Ross over Lamb personally.If Korver retires, we can have around $40 million in cap space. If we waive Korver, we'd have around $36. Now this number is without Rubio, Favors, Thabo, Neto and Udoh. The most realistic option for us in the summer is maximizing the money we have while we keep Favors. He's set to make around $17 if we pick up his team option. So if Korver retires and we keep Favors, I think we do the best we can with around $23 million.
We discussed it on this thread or another, but Jeremy Lamb should be a target if we miss out on Tobias, Kemba, etc. If Donovan can transition part time to PG, Exum can play some minutes and Grayson there as well, we could use a good all purpose wing like Lamb.
tl;dr if DL thought Niko could really help us enough moving forward, he would have traded for him previously. Since I'm assuming that's the perspective DL is coming from, the fact that, in addition to him not believing he's that valuable to us, that he can't even win the press conference with that move, makes me think DL would rather toss out a draft asset for Love than bring in Niko. He could prove me wrong but I'm just not seeing it.