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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

Handlogten's Heros said:
Here is the best possible scenario... We sign Tobias Harris... to do so we have to waive both Favs and Neto (plus FA capholds).

We then trade our 2020 first round pick, Dante Exum, Jae Crowder, tony Bradley and Kyle Korver (once he is guaranteed) for Mike Conley.

Conley
DM
Ingles
Tobias
Rudy

Bench
Royce
Niang
Grayson
2019 pick

We can add someone through the room exception and hand out some decent flier one year minimum make good deals. You might play Ingles more with bench units to get playmaking.
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Don't think you have to waive Neto, and if they did, I'm sure they would try to re-sign him.
 
Carbon13 said:
D’Lo is the best possible outcome for the jazz this offseason.
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Outside of Tobias, I agree. I think Russell and Donovan would create a very dynamic backcourt for the next decade. And Russell would seem like the kind of guy fine being Robin to Donovan's Batman.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Don't think you have to waive Neto, and if they did, I'm sure they would try to re-sign him.
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It’s very close... cap is expected to be 109M but if playoff revenue comes in lower could be 108. I also don’t know if Dante’s cap number is 9 or 9.6.

If it’s 9.6 then we are $200-300k short. We’d have to hope Neto cleared waivers to sign him... I think someone would pick him up.

Could waive and stretch Korver and have ample room to maneuver
 
I don’t get the hate on D-Lo. Dude is 22, an All-Star, and his max is less than anyone else we’re talking about by a significant margin. The other guys may be better now, but Russell could easily end up being the best player in 2-3 years out of our attainable FA wish list
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It’s very close... cap is expected to be 109M but if playoff revenue comes in lower could be 108. I also don’t know if Dante’s cap number is 9 or 9.6.

If it’s 9.6 then we are $200-300k short. We’d have to hope Neto cleared waivers to sign him... I think someone would pick him up.

Could waive and stretch Korver and have ample room to maneuver
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Waivers dont exist for guys who don't have their options picked up, at least I dont think they do. He'd be a UFA free to go wherever.
 
My best scenario:

#1 - Korver retires

#2 - We renounce Rubio, Thabo and Udoh

#3 - We waive Favors (after #1, #2 and #3, we have $40 million)

#4 - We sign D'Angelo Russell for 4 years and $100 million ($25 per year)

#5 - We re-sign Favors for 3 years and $36 million all guaranteed

We have last year's 50 win roster but we improve our PG position by adding a very promising player for the present and long term. If we have to give Russell the full max ($27+), we have the money to do that AND keep Favors between $12 and $13 million.
 
LoPo said:
My best scenario:

#1 - Korver retires

#2 - We renounce Rubio, Thabo and Udoh

#3 - We waive Favors (after #1, #2 and #3, we have $40 million)

#4 - We sign D'Angelo Russell for 4 years and $100 million ($25 per year)

#5 - We re-sign Favors for 3 years and $36 million all guaranteed

We have last year's 50 win roster but we improve our PG position by adding a very promising player for the present and long term. If we have to give Russell the full max ($27+), we have the money to do that AND keep Favors between $12 and $13 million.
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What about Rozier?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Waivers dont exist for guys who don't have their options picked up, at least I dont think they do. He'd be a UFA free to go wherever.
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It’s not a team option... it is non guaranteed so if we want to clear him we waive him. He’d need to clear waivers... only reason I know is it has been discussed at length with Favors.
 
LoPo said:
My best scenario:

#1 - Korver retires

#2 - We renounce Rubio, Thabo and Udoh

#3 - We waive Favors (after #1, #2 and #3, we have $40 million)

#4 - We sign D'Angelo Russell for 4 years and $100 million ($25 per year)

#5 - We re-sign Favors for 3 years and $36 million all guaranteed

We have last year's 50 win roster but we improve our PG position by adding a very promising player for the present and long term. If we have to give Russell the full max ($27+), we have the money to do that AND keep Favors between $12 and $13 million.
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Korver retiring doesn’t mean he doesn’t get paid... we could waive and stretch him and reduce his cap hit to like 1.2m so essentially the same thing.

This assumes Favs clears waivers and that he would come back... not completely out of the realm of possibility but those things would need to happen.
 
David Stern said:
I don’t get the hate on D-Lo. Dude is 22, an All-Star, and his max is less than anyone else we’re talking about by a significant margin. The other guys may be better now, but Russell could easily end up being the best player in 2-3 years out of our attainable FA wish list
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He’s had injury and immaturity issues... is a bad defender and is an inefficient scorer who likely doesn’t get much more effecient unless he figures out how to get his historically bad ft rate up. He might be empty calories...

Athletically he has some limitations that make me believe he doesn’t have the upside some young guys have. There are some things to like but also red flags.

Tobias walker and Middleton are clearly better options... Russell is a pretty big gamble on a max deal.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It’s not a team option... it is non guaranteed so if we want to clear him we waive him. He’d need to clear waivers... only reason I know is it has been discussed at length with Favors.
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Almost positive this isnt true. If this is the case, what is the benefit to team in being non-guaranteed vs team option?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Almost positive this isnt true. If this is the case, what is the benefit to team in being non-guaranteed vs team option?
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You are wrong... why does something have to benefit the team?

Non guaranteed contracts become guaranteed if the player is not waived by a certain date. Waiving the player gets the salary off the books... and the player goes through the normal waiver process.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Korver retiring doesn’t mean he doesn’t get paid... we could waive and stretch him and reduce his cap hit to like 1.2m so essentially the same thing.

This assumes Favs clears waivers and that he would come back... not completely out of the realm of possibility but those things would need to happen.
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If Korver costs $1.2 against our cap, then so be it.

I find a hard time believing that some team is going to use their cap space to pick up Favors on a one year $18 million deal. It could happen I guess, but I just don't see the team willing to do it. Seems like Favors would get that type of deal from a team like the Lakers, but they would want to exhaust all other options first.
 
LoPo said:
If Korver costs $1.2 against our cap, then so be it.

I find a hard time believing that some team is going to use their cap space to pick up Favors on a one year $18 million deal. It could happen I guess, but I just don't see the team willing to do it. Seems like Favors would get that type of deal from a team like the Lakers, but they would want to exhaust all other options first.
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Dallas maybe... You can also claim a guy using a TPE... not sure there are any big enough. I'd say there is a 30% chance someone claims him... I think the date is July 5th and the waiver process takes a couple days... so by July 6th is there a team that missed and now wants him? Maybe we waive him July 1 to force an earlier decision.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Agreed, which is why Rubio is such a bad fit on our team and not a winning player in the NBA ever in his career. He cant shoot and he likes to iso, shoot poorly, or run the pick and roll at low efficiency since he still cant throw a reasonable lob to a big.
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What kind of drugs are you smoking??? Rubio does not like to "ISO"! Is a complete team player that loves to get everyone involved! His pick and roll efficiency is above excellent, indicated by the fact that the Jazz LEAD THE LEAGUE IN DUNKS and his lob passes are also above average! Now, granted, his outside shooting is sometimes questionable, which is why we need to add a shooter or two to our roster that can help that situation out! Winning point guards don't necessarily have to be great shooters but they do have to be above average distributors, which Rubio IS! His defense is not all that bad either and can be covered up by the fact that our big guys are two of the best in the league in blocking shots and forcing the opposition to poor shooting percentages. Bottom line? WE NEED A COUPLE OF OUTSIDE SHOOTERS! End of story!
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Dallas maybe... You can also claim a guy using a TPE... not sure there are any big enough. I'd say there is a 30% chance someone claims him... I think the date is July 5th and the waiver process takes a couple days... so by July 6th is there a team that missed and now wants him? Maybe we waive him July 1 to force an earlier decision.
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Trying navigate all this now. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61


A team can claim a player on waivers only if one of the following is true:

  • The team is far enough under the salary cap to fit the player's entire salary.
  • The team has a Disabled Player exception for at least the player's salary (see question number 25), and the player is on the last season of his contract.
  • The team has a trade exception for at least the player's salary (see question number 87).
  • The player has a minimum salary contract (one or two seasons at the minimum salary, with no bonuses of any kind)
Also...
  • The 48 hour waiver period continues into and through the July Moratorium (see question number 105). Teams are allowed to waive players and claim waived players during the Moratorium. Salaries adjust at the start of the Moratorium, so waivers initiated on June 29 or 30 may require a different salary amount to claim.


So since no teams have $18 million in salary cap space, does that only teams with a trade exception which is large enough can claim Favors if we waived him on July 1? I love our chances of re-signing Favors if that is the case.
 
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