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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

infection said:
Any scenario where we bring Favors back is, at best, a marginal upgrade. I know the Favors issue has been somewhat polarizing to people, in that they only see it as black and white, but having Favors precludes any legitimate changes. Favors and Rozier? Great. That’s like paying an additional 30% to move up two rows at Usana. Yeah, you’re seats are “better.” Hooray for upgrades via technicality.
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That’s if you actually end up moving up two rows in the end.
 
Favors in a S&T to a team over the cap could be a nice move if you can get him to sign a deal with more years and substantially less per-year. A win-now team that needs a good modern NBA 5 could maybe send a pick, prospect, or decent player?

-Milwaukee (if they lose Lopez and Mirotic)
-Charlotte
-GS (if they lose one of their guys)
-Clippers (Gallinari: they take back substantially less money and could open another max slot while retaining a good piece)
-Lakers (who knows WTF they’re doing?)
-Dallas

Just spitballing. In any case, I’m not picking up Favors’ option. I’m either getting him on a value deal more commensurate his role on this team (where he becomes a real asset), or I’m letting him go in some form or fashion. Pretty simple.
 
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I could even get on board with DL opening up cap space, chasing unrestricted FAs and striking out, then putting a handful of offers out on restricted guys and getting them matched, then saying he misread the market and spending 15M or so on guys that are solid and can help... and then taking on a bad contract or two for 1st round picks... as that is the way we will get almost all of our top talent. Realizing it is a low percentage chance and getting a few more bites at the apple will help. Like it would show some direction at least.

I also kinda want us to give IT like twice the vet min on a make good deal and give him a guaranteed role as a backup pg. If he still has anything we are so starved for offensive creation that he could make a real difference even if he is 75% of what he once was.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Favors in a S&T to a team over the cap could be a nice move if you can get him to sign a cheaper deal. An win-now team that needs a modern NBA 5 could maybe send a pick, prospect, or decent player?

-Milwaukee (if they lose Lopez and Mirotic)
-Charlotte
-GS (if they lose one of their guys)
-Clippers (Gallinari: they take back substantially less money and could open another max slot while retaining a good piece)
-Lakers (who knows WTF they’re doing?)
-Dallas

Just spitballing.
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We couldn't do a sign and trade because we'd have to waive him... then he isn't our free agent.

We could canvas the league right now for a deal and say we will move Favs guarantee date up (has to be mutually agreed upon, but he will agree because he clearly wants that dough)… and then move him for something like...

In a Conley deal where he goes to a third team (Washington or Charlotte)
To Charlotte for Biyombo or Zeller and their pick (they could waive and stretch Biyombo if they had Favs and alleviate some salary issues and get a better player in Favs)
Clips as outlined above by @NUMBERICA
Minny - Maybe swap Teague and Favs and swap picks this year...

It can be done. But if not... I just don't know how we can go into the season with him as trade bait on a one year deal... again.
 
LoPo said:
Rozier's value depends on Donovan more than anyone else. What does he think of Rozier?

My fan opinion is that Rozier is a fantastic bulldog type we need at PG if we keep Donovan at SG. He could share PG with Exum to give us pretty damn good PG depth and defense. Rozier doesn't have to have the ball but he can attack and get streaky hot.

I would put Rozier about 7th or 8th on my list of targets, but I would love to have him if the others fall through.
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It doesn't matter what Donovan thinks of him, Donovan's not the GM. Signing players because they're friends with your star player is no way to run a team.
 
colton said:
That might make sense. What's your source?
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It's wrong and his source is his butt.

Go look at San Antonio's cap sheet... you will notice Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are on there this year... weird since they are both retired.
 
Jingled said:
It doesn't matter what Donovan thinks of him, Donovan's not the GM. Signing players because they're friends with your star player is no way to run a team.
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It might be if your guy is Hayward who has an extremely difficult time befriending NBA players.

But we have DM, who is mother-****ing Air Bud.
 
colton said:
What's your source?
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Check my other post... NBA FAQs, Dan Clayton, and history... plenty of retired guys still hit the cap sheet.

We could waive Korver and get his cap number down to 1.2M... he could also negotiate a buyout to help out.
 
NUMBERICA said:
We’d simultaneously, necessarily lose his Bird Rights as well? That sucks.

That doesn’t change my larger stance.
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Yeah only way we remove his current salary is by waiving him which makes him a free agent. Can't use some other team's free agent in a sign and trade and we'd no longer have bird rights.

Basically Favs is either back at $18M or on another team's roster. Maybe he would come back and negotiate a long term deal with us after clearing waivers but that seems like a long shot and would require us to be his only or last solid option of getting a long term deal.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Dan Clayton says the cap hit stays if he retires... Only way it comes off is under medical retirement. Would take a year and he doesn't have a medical issue. ​


http://saltcityhoops.com/offseason-qa-1-favors-korver-current/



CBA FAQs says addresses this...

13. Exactly what is included when computing total team salaries? What is cap room? What is a cap hold?
A team's cap room (referred to simply as "room" in the CBA) refers to its ability to sign players to free agent contracts. If a team is above the cap, then its room is limited to the exceptions it possesses. If the team is below the cap, then its room is how far it is below the cap when all salaries and cap holds are included. Cap holds are "placeholders" for players the team is expected to sign in the future. For example, a team is expected to sign its unsigned first round draft pick, so an amount is reserved for this signing in the form of a cap hold. A team $10 million below the cap with $4 million in cap holds therefore has $6 million in room. A team $5 million under the cap with $6 million in cap holds is not considered to be under the cap at all, and must use exceptions to sign players. The following are included in team salary:

  • Salaries of all active and inactive players1, including likely bonuses.
  • The full season salary of any players the team acquires in midseason trades.
  • Salaries paid or payable to waived players, minus any set-off amounts2 and subject to the Stretch provision (see question number 65).
  • Any salary still being paid to retired players (see question number 61).

Keep stacking them Ls... waiver process yesterday... retirement cap hit... then doubling down declaring me to be the one taking the L
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Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?

And the salary cap FAQ is ambiguous and does not directly answer this question. It just says any money paid to retired players counts against the cap. But it doesn't say the actual salary must be paid.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah only way we remove his current salary is by waiving him which makes him a free agent. Can't use some other team's free agent in a sign and trade and we'd no longer have bird rights.

Basically Favs is either back at $18M or on another team's roster. Maybe he would come back and negotiate a long term deal with us after clearing waivers but that seems like a long shot and would require us to be his only or last solid option of getting a long term deal.
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Well that’s the only circumstance he comes back for me; both parties strike out and we get a bargain.

I just want to see this organization really ****ing go for it. For once. If they strike out, pick up good players on below-market deals that got frozen out in the frenzy.
 
Can someone clarify to me what it would mean for another team if they acquire Korver? If they waive and stretch him (because of retirement or whatever) does he only account for $1.2 million on their cap sheet next year? Paging @Handlogten's Heros .

For the record, I am down to roll with him as-is if he is. I think he can easily play another two seasons if he’s handled with care. I think he was over-player this year.
 
colton said:
Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?

And the salary cap FAQ is ambiguous and does not directly answer this question. It just says any money paid to retired players counts against the cap. But it doesn't say the actual salary must be paid.
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1) “guaranteed contract” isn’t ambiguous.
2) for the purposes of transactions, whether or not the player is actually paid is virtually irrelevant.
 
colton said:
Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?

And the salary cap FAQ is ambiguous and does not directly answer this question. It just says any money paid to retired players counts against the cap. But it doesn't say the actual salary must be paid.
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I mean Ginobili and Duncan are retired and still getting paid by the Spurs... nba also has an over 38 rule that prevents teams from giving older guys cap friendly deals that run past when they would be playing to give them more.

My sources are better than Cys which are again his butt
 
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