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LoPo said:
The amount of desperation right now in this forum is pathetic. Conley is an extremely shortsighted move. Not only does he cost us assets, he costs us cap space this summer and next. The summer his contract goes away, we gotta pay Gobert, O'Neale and soon after Donovan.

I agree - Conley makes us better. But he is an aging PG who is injury prone and extremely overpaid. Pass on Conley.

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Question. Which would you prefer...

A) Trade for Conley
B) Go into free agency, strikeout, re-sign Rubio/Favors
C) Go into free agency, strikeout, sign players on a similar level or a step below Rubio/Favors

It's an important question because those three outcomes are far more likely than the outcome of signing a Kemba or a Tobias or any other ideal scenario we've discussed.
 
LoPo said:
Conley maybe gets us to the 2nd round next year just to get paid even more and decline even more going into his expiring year.

Awesome long term plan for maybe a trip to the West Conference Finals. Set that bar high HH. Set it high.

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Dude, the Jazz are a second round team now. Add Conley to that. Come on...

And don’t talk about setting it high when you advocate players that get the Jazz the lottery.
 
The order of how I’d play it...

Don’t do anything at the draft unless a DM type deal comes around.

Pitch Harris and Kemba. If you strike out...

Engage Memphis on potential trade... see if they prefer to do a deal with Favs or cap space... I’m guessing the money savings are more appealing. So we waive Favs trade Exum, Crowder, Bradley, a first in 2020 top 5 protected... they can likely re-route Crowder for an additional asset... they may not have interest in Exum but I’d want him in the deal. We’d have 15Mish to reconfigure plus the room exception... try and get Rudy Gay (might take close to 15M over two years to get him) or Jamychal Green (won’t cost 15M so you could split it with him and another player), and find a backup 5 with the room exception...

Conley
DM
Ingles
Gay or Green
Rudy

The plans beyond Conley might be too rough to think about right now.
 
Steph is 6 months younger than Conley and has 3/130M left on his contract... has had some durability issues and lots of miles due to extended playoff runs... he seems like he’s doing okay... so maybe Conley will be alright... who knows.
 
SCS said:
Question. Which would you prefer...

A) Trade for Conley
B) Go into free agency, strikeout, re-sign Rubio/Favors
C) Go into free agency, strikeout, sign players on a similar level or a step below Rubio/Favors

It's an important question because those three outcomes are far more likely than the outcome of signing a Kemba or a Tobias or any other ideal scenario we've discussed.
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I think you do the Conley trade during or before the draft if Memphis is game. Lock down a major piece and use the attractiveness of our new big 3 to fill out the roster during FA. That’s much better than risking it all in FA.
 
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Ineptimusprime said:
I think you do the Conley trade during or before the draft if Memphis is game. Lock down a major piece and use the attractiveness of our new big 3 to fill out the roster during FA. That’s much better than risking it all in FA.
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The problem is that you lose your max slot in the process. There is a scenario you could keep the max slot and grab Conley afterwards.

I know; a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Whatever, I'm a dreamer.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
I think you do the Conley trade during or before the draft if Memphis is game. Lock down a major piece and use the attractiveness of our new big 3 to fill out the roster during FA. That’s much better than risking it all in FA.
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Don’t have the salary to match unless they agree to take Favs and he agrees to move up his guarantee date. I’ve never seen that done...

That’s one of the many reasons it blows that we didn’t get it done at the deadline.
 
Adam Silver pisses me off. It's so dumb that the worst three teams ended up with the 3rd, 6th and 7th picks. It's not going to end tanking. It's only going to cause more teams to tank because those 4th-9th (or so) worst teams will say "**** it, let's tank the last three months. Look how far the Pels, Grizz and Lakers moves up."
 
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It's also only going to cause a legitimately awful franchise to continue to suck into oblivion and eventual folding and having to move.
 
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Wes Mantooth said:
It's also only going to cause a legitimately awful franchise to continue to suck into oblivion and eventual folding and having to move.
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If the changed lottery odds tip the scales into folding and moving than the team was terribly managed and should be moving anyways. The new odds aren’t what should be blamed.

But ok, you hate the new system. Fine. What should the lottery system look like?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
One metric may say that but advanced numbers really like him.... if he was on par with Favs that’s great because we ain’t keeping Favs for what Olynyk makes and Kelly’s skillset is a better fit.
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I'm not arguing Olynyk might be a better fit. However, his advanced numbers are not not on a par with Favors. Overall Olynyk has below-average numbers, and Favors has extremely good numbers. Talent-wise, Olynyk is a downgrade, but I agree fit matters.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Don’t have the salary to match unless they agree to take Favs and he agrees to move up his guarantee date. I’ve never seen that done...

That’s one of the many reasons it blows that we didn’t get it done at the deadline.
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I can think of $18 million reasons why Fav might agree to that. If we approach him about the trade, he’ll know there’s a chance we aren’t keeping him and we’d be waiving him anyway. It’d be pretty risky for Fav not to lock himself into $18 million when he won’t get close to that on the open market if we were to waive him.

As he said at exit interviews “I need my option picked up”
 
Wes Mantooth said:
It's also only going to cause a legitimately awful franchise to continue to suck into oblivion and eventual folding and having to move.
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Stop excusing **** franchises. Brooklyn gave up their first round picks for half a decade and made the playoffs this year. Why does constant incompetence give you the right to ruin the careers of more young players?

Why is it always the same teams at the bottom of the standings? Shouldn’t they have figured it out by now? You’re really going to blame the NBA for them sucking? How many chances do these **** teams need?


Me thinks you are just salty that the Lakers got a top 4 pick, and for 5 minutes were legitimately in the running for Zion. This take seems to go against all usual Wes logic.
 
Okay, I'm the GM this off season. Well, if I take a handful of posters advice (@Lakers_Slapper I'm looking at you) I think it would go a little something like this

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Stoked said:
If the changed lottery odds tip the scales into folding and moving than the team was terribly managed and should be moving anyways. The new odds aren’t what should be blamed.

But ok, you hate the new system. Fine. What should the lottery system look like?
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The old lottery odds were better. All this new system does is keep the bad teams bad because they are more likely than ever to miss game changing talent. And it incentivizes more teams to tank for a better chance at a top pick. Even makes it easier to do so because they don't even have to be a bottom 3 team. They can suck just enough to be bottom 9/10 and have a great chance at getting rewarded. Disparity in talent is only going to grow because of this. Good teams are going to be even better. Bad teams will be worse than ever.
 
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