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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

If we absolutely knew a major free agent wasn't coming, this could make everyone happy....

Winslow and Olynyk to Utah
Favors and #23 to Charlotte
Biyombo, Korver, #12 to Miami

then after free agency starts...

Exum, Bradley, Neto, Niang and 2020 1st for Conley

Charlotte makes a low risk improvement to try to keep Kemba.

Miami sheds 2020 money and get a 2019 lottery pick

Memphis sheds major money and gets a 2020 1st



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Jimmy Butler just thanked his teammates and 76ers fans. Many believe he is saying good bye.

If he goes Philly can't let Tobias leave, can they?
 
mellow said:
Jimmy Butler just thanked his teammates and 76ers fans. Many believe he is saying good bye.

If he goes Philly can't let Tobias leave, can they?
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You have to think they'll for sure give Tobias the 5 year max if they lose Butler.
 
mellow said:
Jimmy Butler just thanked his teammates and 76ers fans. Many believe he is saying good bye.

If he goes Philly can't let Tobias leave, can they?
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That’s the thing... it ain’t up to them. We couldn’t let Hayward leave yet he is in Boston.

I don’t know that Jimmys decision changes things one way or another for Tobias. Either way if they don’t offer him the 5 year max I think he bounces and I think they will offer it either way. They will figure out the salary crunch later.
 
Jingled said:
You have to think they'll for sure give Tobias the 5 year max if they lose Butler.
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This is pretty much what I’ve expected. Think the Jazz should make a major push for Butler. He was the first guy I thought of when Jae Crowder said he was going to help recruit players for Utah.

My list would be Butler #1, Harris #2. Think those might be the only realistic options worth maxing out.
 
Jazz couldnt sign jimmy ****ing nuetron let alone butler, dont get your hopes up. Its tough to lure a player to utah.
 
Go hard after Kawhi, Durant, Kemba, Klay, Butler, and Harris. Obviously some of those are not really likely but I still get on the phone with all of their agents as soon as you can. We have a good pitch to all of them. If we cant get one of those maybe go after the RFA's Russell and Brogdon. If we cant get those guys we have to bring back Favors to use him for a trade and/or just keep him as solid talent.

Then dig into the deep field of solid players that we can try to get for decent price. JaMychal Green, Tyreke Evans, Alex Caruso, Mike Scott, Danny Green, Seth Curry, Dwayne Bacon, Danuel House, JaKarr Sampson, Danny Green, Marcus Morris, Randle, Mirotic, Beverly, Gay, Dedmon, Bojan, Thaddeus, Aminu, Ross, Ariza, Parker, Oubre, and a bunch of other players. There are a ton of really solid FAs this year. Some of them are going for cheap since cap space is limited by some teams.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Go hard after Kawhi, Durant, Kemba, Klay, Butler, and Harris. Obviously some of those are not really likely but I still get on the phone with all of their agents as soon as you can. We have a good pitch to all of them. If we cant get one of those maybe go after the RFA's Russell and Brogdon. If we cant get those guys we have to bring back Favors to use him for a trade and/or just keep him as solid talent.

Then dig into the deep field of solid players that we can try to get for decent price. JaMychal Green, Tyreke Evans, Alex Caruso, Mike Scott, Danny Green, Seth Curry, Dwayne Bacon, Danuel House, JaKarr Sampson, Danny Green, Marcus Morris, Randle, Mirotic, Beverly, Gay, Dedmon, Bojan, Thaddeus, Aminu, Ross, Ariza, Parker, Oubre, and a bunch of other players. There are a ton of really solid FAs this year. Some of them are going for cheap since cap space is limited by some teams.
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I'm not sure it's possible to get a Tier 1 free agent while keeping Favors. I believe it's time to chose which one will make us not only better, but the best. I love Favors as much as the next guy and don't want to see him go, but that be what it takes to get a tier 1 player.
 
mellow said:
Jimmy Butler just thanked his teammates and 76ers fans. Many believe he is saying good bye.

If he goes Philly can't let Tobias leave, can they?
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I'm not so sure Tobias wants to be there. He should be a number 1 or 2 guy on a team and when you're put behind someone who can't make a jumpshot, that doesn't help their case in staying. From what I've seen and heard, it's almost a no brainer fit for Tobias to come to Utah.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Go hard after Kawhi, Durant, Kemba, Klay, Butler, and Harris. Obviously some of those are not really likely but I still get on the phone with all of their agents as soon as you can. We have a good pitch to all of them. If we cant get one of those maybe go after the RFA's Russell and Brogdon. If we cant get those guys we have to bring back Favors to use him for a trade and/or just keep him as solid talent.

Then dig into the deep field of solid players that we can try to get for decent price. JaMychal Green, Tyreke Evans, Alex Caruso, Mike Scott, Danny Green, Seth Curry, Dwayne Bacon, Danuel House, JaKarr Sampson, Danny Green, Marcus Morris, Randle, Mirotic, Beverly, Gay, Dedmon, Bojan, Thaddeus, Aminu, Ross, Ariza, Parker, Oubre, and a bunch of other players. There are a ton of really solid FAs this year. Some of them are going for cheap since cap space is limited by some teams.
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I think Tobias is the most likely.... I've been listening to some national podcasts and they really kind of challenge the idea they would even offer a regular max. I think they effed up and panic traded for Harris because they though Jimmy was leaving, but that may have been a mistake.

If they don't offer 5 year max I'm not sure why Harris would stay. I think the 5 year deal is more appealing to Butler than Tobias. I think they cave and offer 5 years to Jimmy... I think its 50/50 whether Tobias signs in Philly or somewhere else. Embiid and Simmons really don't compliment his game... if Butler stays it would be even worse... Tobias is basically the glue guy that makes those guys work. He may want the money and may be cool with that, but he'd have a great role here and Rudy does a lot that would help him. Embiid is great but he's not good in the screen and roll game... it sounds dumb but Rudy is such a good and willing screen setter... Harris and Rudy pick and rolls would be noice.

DM is our only mouth to feed right now... and when he isn't on ball he's a 40% catch and shoot guy... so it will help Tobias.

It comes down to what Tobias values... he said culture and fit. $50M may trump that, but it is reasonable to think a 3+1 player option max might help him recoup the lost $50M on the 5th year. He also has to know that if they max him and Butler the sixers will be moving one of Harris, Simmons, Butler, or Embiid after a year.
 
yamers said:
Heat showing interest in conley atm, dragic might want out, hed fit well here.
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Where you see that? Might be the heat trying to bluff Dragic into not picking up his option because he'd be headed to Memphis.
 
mellow said:
Good hell are they going to trade 1st round picks for 2 years of pg forever?

Its not sustainable is it? Not for a small market team.
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Yes we will do it forever... tough to argue that the trades we made didn't workout. Were either of them colossal failures.

It is understandable we have searched for a pg... might be the toughest position to fill with an elite talent if you draft outside the top 10.
 
yamers said:
Heat showing interest in conley atm, dragic might want out, hed fit well here.
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Dragic would be a good fit but he's 33 and missed most of last season with a knee injury. He shouldn't be a primary target but he might be worth considering if we miss out on some other guys.
 
Jazzman02 said:
I'm not sure it's possible to get a Tier 1 free agent while keeping Favors. I believe it's time to chose which one will make us not only better, but the best. I love Favors as much as the next guy and don't want to see him go, but that be what it takes to get a tier 1 player.
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Right that is why I said pursue them and if you cant get one of them to commit, then keep Favors. Some of the tier 2 we might be able to get if we restructure Favors deal.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Right that is why I said pursue them and if you cant get one of them to commit, then keep Favors. Some of the tier 2 we might be able to get if we restructure Favors deal.
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Why would Favs restructure his deal? It rarely ever happens... basically Favs is either on the team at $18M next year or he is on another team.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Tobias is the most likely.... I've been listening to some national podcasts and they really kind of challenge the idea they would even offer a regular max. I think they effed up and panic traded for Harris because they though Jimmy was leaving, but that may have been a mistake.

If they don't offer 5 year max I'm not sure why Harris would stay. I think the 5 year deal is more appealing to Butler than Tobias. I think they cave and offer 5 years to Jimmy... I think its 50/50 whether Tobias signs in Philly or somewhere else. Embiid and Simmons really don't compliment his game... if Butler stays it would be even worse... Tobias is basically the glue guy that makes those guys work. He may want the money and may be cool with that, but he'd have a great role here and Rudy does a lot that would help him. Embiid is great but he's not good in the screen and roll game... it sounds dumb but Rudy is such a good and willing screen setter... Harris and Rudy pick and rolls would be noice.

DM is our only mouth to feed right now... and when he isn't on ball he's a 40% catch and shoot guy... so it will help Tobias.

It comes down to what Tobias values... he said culture and fit. $50M may trump that, but it is reasonable to think a 3+1 player option max might help him recoup the lost $50M on the 5th year. He also has to know that if they max him and Butler the sixers will be moving one of Harris, Simmons, Butler, or Embiid after a year.
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Of the players I listed first he is lowest, but I would be happy to get him. I dont think he is worth the max but we will have to overpay to get a solid FA. Walker seems like a possibility as well and I would prefer him by a decent amount.

Handlogten's Heros said:
Why would Favs restructure his deal? It rarely ever happens... basically Favs is either on the team at $18M next year or he is on another team.
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Longer deal. We could bump it down a few million and give him 4 years.
 
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