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Study finds Democrats exaggerated mental distress after 2016 election

Douchebag K said:
Somebody being elected to office is an attack on democracy ??
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I was raised in the 50's/early 60's. American history was my favorite subject, and we were taught a not too realistic version of that history: we were the good guys, the ones in white hats, who always fought on the side of truth and justice. The Vietnam War changed all that for myself, and many others in my generation. I had to learn that the idealized version of history I had been taught was a form of patriotic propaganda. Yet, here it is decades later, and I still believe, despite our flaws and many problems, that we created something here in 1789 that is well worth protecting. I never did kill the idealistic view of my nation in which I had been raised. So, when we are attacked, be it physically, or via cyber warefare, yeah, I still care.
 
NPC D4617 said:
I dont doubt it.

Can you help out around here? There is so much negativity.
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There is.
But, every once in awhile there is actually a genuine exchange of ideas. So I have hope that we remember that we are all just Jazz fans at heart, and that what unites us is more important than what divides us.
 
fishonjazz said:
You didn't know that Russia interfered in the election?

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Didn’t you guys just have a 2 year investigation that couldn’t find any evidence to support that ??

Don’t get me wrong I think Donald is a douche but the endless railing against the election result seems pretty petulant and counterproductive to getting rid of him at the next election ???
 
Red said:
I was raised in the 50's/early 60's. American history was my favorite subject, and we were taught a not too realistic version of that history: we were the good guys, the ones in white hats, who always fought on the side of truth and justice. The Vietnam War changed all that for myself, and many others in my generation. I had to learn that the idealized version of history I had been taught was a form of patriotic propaganda. Yet, here it is decades later, and I still believe, despite our flaws and many problems, that we created something here in 1789 that is well worth protecting. I never did kill the idealistic view of my nation in which I had been raised. So, when we are attacked, be it physically, or via cyber warefare, yeah, I still care.
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So how was your democracy attacked exactly .. that’s just a bunch of long winded waffle
 
Red said:
No, Russia interfering in our democratic institution of free elections was an attack. McCain very early called it an "act of war", and since we are a sovereign nation, I agreed with that opinion.
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But an opinion isn’t fact or reality ?? It’s an opinion ..???
 
Douchebag K said:
Didn’t you guys just have a 2 year investigation that couldn’t find any evidence to support that ??

Don’t get me wrong I think Donald is a douche but the endless railing against the election result seems pretty petulant and counterproductive to getting rid of him at the next election ???
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Lol they found tons of evidence that Russia interfered in our election. Everyone, Republican and Democrat, agrees about that. Russia did interfere in our election. That is fact.

Trump being involved in the interference is what you are thinking of.

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Douchebag K said:
But an opinion isn’t fact or reality ?? It’s an opinion ..???
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The opinion is that it was an act of war.
It's fact that Russia interfered in our election.
Is it fact that interfering in our election is a form of an attack? I would say yes.

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Douchebag K said:
Didn’t you guys just have a 2 year investigation that couldn’t find any evidence to support that ??

Don’t get me wrong I think Donald is a douche but the endless railing against the election result seems pretty petulant and counterproductive to getting rid of him at the next election ???
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Holy ****! Really?

The investigation found overwhelmingly that Russia interfered in our election.

Is your actual takeaway that Russia didn't interfere? That is not the conclusion of the investigation. Not at all.
 
Douchebag K said:
Didn’t you guys just have a 2 year investigation that couldn’t find any evidence to support that ??

Don’t get me wrong I think Donald is a douche but the endless railing against the election result seems pretty petulant and counterproductive to getting rid of him at the next election ???
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Someone should read literally the first page of the Mueller report. Like it literally says Russia interfered in the 2016 election and on the behalf of Trump. I’d take a pic and show it to you if my kindle weren’t in the other room.

Maybe you should google it? There’s a pdf version right there.

If the American public still can’t agree whether or not Russia interferes in the 2016 election and on the behalf of trump then amen to this country’s democracy. Such an intellectually lazy and polarized country deserves everything we get.
 
Lol @ Trumpers on here calling democrats snowflakes for their reactions after the election.

I seem to remember the rise of the tea party, unprecedented obstructionism, and 8 years of whining about the president's tan suits and choice of mustard from the right because they were so butt hurt that a black man beat down their asses not just once but twice.

All well. Selective memory defines the right these days. Remember how the right was worried about the deficit for 8 years? What happened the last 2? Lol...
 
The Thriller said:
Someone should read literally the first page of the Mueller report. Like it literally says Russia interfered in the 2016 election and on the behalf of Trump. I’d take a pic and show it to you if my kindle weren’t in the other room.

Maybe you should google it? There’s a pdf version right there.

If the American public still can’t agree whether or not Russia interferes in the 2016 election and on the behalf of trump then amen to this country’s democracy. Such an intellectually lazy and polarized country deserves everything we get.
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He isn't the American public btw. He resides in Australia so he gets a pass

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fishonjazz said:
He isn't the American public btw. He resides in Australia so he gets a pass

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He chose to comment on this topic. If he’s going to comment ignorantly then expect to be blasted. Why comment on something you have no idea about? I honestly don’t understand this. If you’re going to call people petulant and counterproductive, it might help to actually learn the basic facts about what you’re ranting against.

Right?
 
The Thriller said:
He chose to comment on this topic. If he’s going to comment ignorantly then expect to be blasted. Why comment on something you have no idea about? I honestly don’t understand this. If you’re going to call people petulant and counterproductive, it might help to actually learn the basic facts about what you’re ranting against.

Right?
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He did get blasted. By 3 people iirc (myself included). In your post you mentioned something about the American public not understanding. I simply informed you that he is not the American public. You're welcome.

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Bulletproof said:
Holy ****! Really?

The investigation found overwhelmingly that Russia interfered in our election.

Is your actual takeaway that Russia didn't interfere? That is not the conclusion of the investigation. Not at all.
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OMG guys.

Russia bought some Facebook ads and totally interfered with the election. How dare they

*meanwhile America invades countries, kills thousands of people, and over throws governments. All the while preaching the better good.

Well, in my humble opinion, Donald Trump was the better good over Hillary Clinton.
 
To the subject at hand, the "distress" experienced by some by the election of Donald Trump....

I experience a great deal of internal conflict when I consider the idea of America, and the history of America. On the one hand, I learned to oppose American imperialistic ambitions. I did not find it always dovetailed with the ideal of expanding human freedoms at the heart of our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. (And I do recognize that those freedoms took time, and a good deal of conflict and internal warfare to really be achieved. At first, property qualifications to "earn" the right to vote, the elimination of slavery, an entire sex denied the vote until a mere hundred years ago). There is so much of our history that simply is not pretty, and strays far from the idealized view I was taught in grammar and high school.

Yet, it's really seems like a stab to the heart to see our president trash our friends and allies, and praise the worst authoritarians in the world. Telling the president of the Philippines that he was doing a "great job" with his nations' drug problem, knowing it included extrajudicial killings of drug users, including by the Phillipine president himself. Standing before the world's cameras in Helsinki and saying he believed the man who ordered the attack on our democratic institution of free elections. Or, most recently, cozying up to the leader of Hungary, a man who wishes to create an ethnostate: https://news.google.com/articles/CA...w5vrMATC_9SQwxbyWAw?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

When I consider those approaches by Trump, the idealistic image that was instilled into me in my youngest years, reasserts itself, despite a more realistic and jaded understanding of our history. I want us to be better then this. I want a leader that wants us to be better then that. I believe we are a unique experiment in the history of the world. Whatever idealism that remains toward my country simply recoils at how far removed Trump seems to be from reflecting our values. But it is a matter of intense internal conflict on my part, contradictory forces internally are at play, it's not an easy go of it.
 
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