This is clearly not an echo chamber. What a joke. Are you a bot?
denial denial.
I just try hard to say something I think is not being given much consideration.
When I see a moniker like "safetydan" I remember all the stupid little mandatory "meetings" or employee checkoffs about how not to light up a cigarette when pouring methanol in the lab. And the very very serious middlemanagement kissups who remind me that since they are authorities within their little kingdoms, nobody has any business saying anything but what is expected.
I'm the science expert top management calls and pays real money for actually solving a problem.
Like how a plastics manufacturer needed an explanation for why their initiator wasn't working. I analyzed the stuff and found it had "spoiled"..... it had gotten too warm somewhere, and partially decomposed. The top brass asked what to do, and I said "call the fire department. This material needs to be safely transported outta town and destroyed." And call the manufacturer and get their instructions so the fire department can do it right.
Well, we got the right advice from the manufacturer. "Get a large open space, space out the containers about 20 ft apart, and let the sun shine on it. It will warm up, catch fire, and safely burn off."
I told the fire department guys. They ignored me, and got out their books. "Oh look, this is like TNT! We'll deal with it that way."
So they got big trucks, filled them with sand, and put two cannisters in each, and did police escort out to the gravel pit next to the new housing development. It was a parade for two hours while they made ten trips with four trucks. And then they put them all together in the pit, and lit some dynamite to set it all off.
"Boom!!!!"
The next day there was an epidemic in inexplicable malaises in the housing development. Some thought their ears had been damaged. Some had headaches, or just didn't feel well.
Well, blowing it up did not destroy the stuff, just scattered it. It decomposed as particles or droplets in the wind, without burning, into two toxic parts, each significantly poisonous.
Now tell me how "Authoritarian Governance" is really the best we can do. Now tell me why we need our media giants grading participants for correct political views and good conduct.
When I was a kid, we called them "Hall Monitors". The pious little stinks who chased the deliquents down the hall or caught them and took them to the Principal, for chewing gum or maybe lesser offenses.
My idea of a discussion forum required more differing opinions, respectfully laid out, than any little NGO-influenced band of change agents can really do by themselves.
I swear, we've got twenty OBs in here, each with some interesting little twist on socialism, and nobody who has actually paid their own way in life. I mean.... public school teachers do not dare be different, and don't dare to get a job that isn't well-structured with a secure paycheck and benefits. All right.... how many teachers in here???/