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fishonjazz said:
Scottie pippen is a good comp for kahwi it turns out. And I could even see some people seeing that while he was in college. I think people where just scared that he was limited too much offensively. Obviously that isn't the case. I wonder how much effect the Spurs had on him offensively. He would be a defensive stud no matter what but I wonder if Corbin would have developed his offensive game. Corbin loved Josh Howard (he shot 39% from the field and 24% from three as a 31 year old for the jazz lol. Good job Corbin), Marvin Williams, Richard Jefferson (33 years old and started in 78 games for a tanking jazz team lol), and they had Hayward. I'm not certain Corbin would have given kahwi enough minutes to flourish.

And ya Burks was a ball dominant scorer in college but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Ball dominant scorers are something highly sought after aren't they? I mean that was one of the knocks on Wiggins. Wade was a ball dominant scorer too. Wade averaged 15.2 shot attempts per game in his sophomore season. Burks averaged 14.1 shots in his sophomore season. Burks also averaged slightly more points per game in slightly less minutes than wade. (Burks got to the line 7.9 times per game. Wade had 7.5 free throw attempts per game. Burks shot 83% and wade shot 78%)

Kahwis biggest strength was his huge hands and length. Many busts have been picked due to measurables over production.

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You make good points about landing in San Antonio. That had to help.

I just felt like he was a super athletic SF with a massive chip on his shoulder and a major drive to be great. At the time of that draft, he felt different than any guy we have ever drafted. I felt like it was time for us to swing at a super athletic wing and hope he evolved into a complete player.

But everything happens for a reason. We have Donovan and we gotta build around him for the next decade.

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Kawhi has pushed his game far beyond what anyone expected. Shaq last night said he's either one or two of the best players in the NBA. No doubt about it, he outplayed Giannis. In fact, I'd have to say what I saw was reminiscent of MJ the way he just took over the game on both ends of the court and how cool he was getting his shots and making them no matter how much defensive pressure there was. And if he'd get open, it was almost automatic. Pippen never was that good, nor was Kobe that dominating. It will be interesting to see how he fares against Golden State.
 
fishonjazz said:
Scottie pippen is a good comp for kahwi it turns out. And I could even see some people seeing that while he was in college. I think people where just scared that he was limited too much offensively. Obviously that isn't the case. I wonder how much effect the Spurs had on him offensively. He would be a defensive stud no matter what but I wonder if Corbin would have developed his offensive game. Corbin loved Josh Howard (he shot 39% from the field and 24% from three as a 31 year old for the jazz lol. Good job Corbin), Marvin Williams, Richard Jefferson (33 years old and started in 78 games for a tanking jazz team lol), and they had Hayward. I'm not certain Corbin would have given kahwi enough minutes to flourish.

And ya Burks was a ball dominant scorer in college but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Ball dominant scorers are something highly sought after aren't they? I mean that was one of the knocks on Wiggins. Wade was a ball dominant scorer too. Wade averaged 15.2 shot attempts per game in his sophomore season. Burks averaged 14.1 shots in his sophomore season. Burks also averaged slightly more points per game in slightly less minutes than wade. (Burks got to the line 7.9 times per game. Wade had 7.5 free throw attempts per game. Burks shot 83% and wade shot 78%)

Kahwis biggest strength was his huge hands and length. Many busts have been picked due to measurables over production.

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I reckon Kahwi is better than Pippen. There is however something about Kahwi that I rubs me the wrong way, can't put my finger on it but its there.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Kawhi has pushed his game far beyond what anyone expected. Shaq last night said he's either one or two of the best players in the NBA. No doubt about it, he outplayed Giannis. In fact, I'd have to say what I saw was reminiscent of MJ the way he just took over the game on both ends of the court and how cool he was getting his shots and making them no matter how much defensive pressure there was. And if he'd get open, it was almost automatic. Pippen never was that good, nor was Kobe that dominating. It will be interesting to see how he fares against Golden State.
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And he even did all that while it seemed to me that he was gassed and hurt.
Somehow he just kept digging deep and finding ways to make more plays after he looked done to me.

Quite a few games this series he looked beat up, exhausted and hurt. But he just kept playing competing and coming back.
Very impressive

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homeytennis said:
He and Pop had a falling out and if you can't get along with Pop, there is something wrong there.
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A lot of people are saying that the SA spurs FO wasnt going to give him the super max unless he showed he was 100% healthy, and this caused him to Want out.

We will never know what happened, but i doubt it was pop.
 
So... this rockets stuff getting really interesting... they fired Mikes assistants and then didn’t give him an extension... now he’s going to have trouble getting quality coaches to come on because they may get axed when Mike leaves.

They are either the cheapest of cheapskates or they are trying to make mike quit. I think the CP stuff may end up being cost cutting more than competitive... I think the Rockets May be done and I think this new owner gonna be the new Vivek.
 
yamers said:
A lot of people are saying that the SA spurs FO wasnt going to give him the super max unless he showed he was 100% healthy, and this caused him to Want out.

We will never know what happened, but i doubt it was pop.
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He wanted out because the trust was broken.
 
It's going to be great seeing Cousins' face when he takes the minimum and doesn't get a ring. That is if GSW loses the series, though, which is still not likely.
 
I think he did lose trust, maybe not with Pop but the entire Spurs organization. Both Ginobili and Parker very direct public statements questioning Kawhi's integrity. I'm sure that rankled him. And what is Pop supposed to do? You know he's now going to rebuke them, the close relationship he has with them. But I don't think Kawhi blames Pop for what happened.
 
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