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Jazz front runner for Conley

If we then signed a Niko or Jabari, we’ve 1. already addressed shooting partially and 2. our shooting issues aren’t as glaring when we’re not trotting out 3 non-shooting starters.

Agreed. Conley and Niko would solve plenty of issues we've had. Rest is simply filling spaces where we need it. But we'd be about 8 deep by my reckoning. If we got more, all the better.
 
F*** Conley. He’d be a mistake. I have such a hard time seeing what everyone sees in him. He’s a 32 year old non-all-star. He didn’t average over 20 points a game until year 11 in the nba. He’s over 20 a game now but he’s been on a crap team. He’s a good defender, but he lacks size. He’s old and his durability is a question. His contract is huge and the price to get him via trade is also super high. So many red flags....


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He is still better than Rubio, Exum and Neto combined.
 
Agreed. Conley and Niko would solve plenty of issues we've had. Rest is simply filling spaces where we need it. But we'd be about 8 deep by my reckoning. If we got more, all the better.

Niko sucks, he can't play against elite defenders that's why he rides the pine in decisive games. He is a stiff
 
He is still better than Rubio, Exum and Neto combined.
and twice as expensive as all of them combined, and one and a half times as old. So what? If we get him Jazz management tells us all year he has to get acclimated to the team and he has to figure some things out. All of the sudden its the final year of his contract and hes 34 and were looking at the next rental PG? It is so glaringly stupid that the Jazz want to throw assets at acquiring a 2 year PG rental with a huge contract.
 
I'll mention two names/trades that I think are relevant to a Conley deal:

Derek Fisher and George Hill.

Granted, both of these ended bad. However, the Derek Fisher move, despite his playing like ****, gave us good leadership for a young team that I feel contributed significantly to our WCF run. Hill, on the other hand, was the perfect fit and, despite playing only like 60-70% of the season, pushed us up quite a bit.

Conley is like the best combo of both of those things. Plus we'd get him for at least two years and not just one.
 
and twice as expensive as all of them combined, and one and a half times as old. So what? If we get him Jazz management tells us all year he has to get acclimated to the team and he has to figure some things out. All of the sudden its the final year of his contract and hes 34 and were looking at the next rental PG? It is so glaringly stupid that the Jazz want to throw assets at acquiring a 2 year PG rental with a huge contract.

He is older yes, expensive yes but gives us an upgrade at pg via a trade. No free agents pg coming here. Exum sucks and can't start so oh well. It's a risk but one that could pay off
 
I'd assume were trading Exum. As well Korver's expiring contract with the 23rd pick and some other pieces.
 
He is older yes, expensive yes but gives us an upgrade at pg via a trade. No free agents pg coming here. Exum sucks and can't start so oh well. It's a risk but one that could pay off
I don't mind risk at all. I think the Jazz should take a few more but adding Conley isn't a risk its just stupid. The time to take a risk on adding Conley was at least 2 years ago, not now. I think George Hill was a good risk, its too bad it didn't pay off. I also think Rubio was a risk, and its too bad it didn't pay off. What lessons are the Jazz not learning? Do all of the teams issues revolve around the PG? Are we the f****** Browns of the NBA? How many guys are we gonna rent? Maybe the weak a** front office just aren't taking big enough risks, thinking well if George doesn't pan out hes gone in a year, if Rubio doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years, if Conley doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years. Its time for some higher upside risks.
 
Any sane person would prefer a 23 (?) year-old Russell to a 31 year-old Conley. But I suspect it would take a lot more finagling/assets to swoop D-Lo and I also have serious concerns about him re-signing long-term (unless he and Donovan really are tight).

On the other hand, I think swooping Conley for two years while still holding onto Favors would be fire.
 
This is 100% why you don't trade for Conley during the draft. If we have a shot at Russell, don't trade assets for Conley.

Dlo doesn't go to the hoop enough or goes to the ft line enough just shoots and passes we need more. Conley does that and we need that with Rudy
 
I'll mention two names/trades that I think are relevant to a Conley deal:

Derek Fisher and George Hill.

Granted, both of these ended bad. However, the Derek Fisher move, despite his playing like ****, gave us good leadership for a young team that I feel contributed significantly to our WCF run. Hill, on the other hand, was the perfect fit and, despite playing only like 60-70% of the season, pushed us up quite a bit.

Conley is like the best combo of both of those things. Plus we'd get him for at least two years and not just one.

People think that running it back represents the status quo for the Front Office, but I think that's what adding Conley represents. He might make the Jazz a little bit better, but he most certainly is not what will make the Jazz championship caliber. Its fine if he himself does not make the jazz championship caliber because few player would, but he (his contract) does single-handedly hamper the Jazz ability to get any better by adding him.
 
I don't mind risk at all. I think the Jazz should take a few more but adding Conley isn't a risk its just stupid. The time to take a risk on adding Conley was at least 2 years ago, not now. I think George Hill was a good risk, its too bad it didn't pay off. I also think Rubio was a risk, and its too bad it didn't pay off. What lessons are the Jazz not learning? Do all of the teams issues revolve around the PG? Are we the f****** Browns of the NBA? How many guys are we gonna rent? Maybe the weak a** front office just aren't taking big enough risks, thinking well if George doesn't pan out hes gone in a year, if Rubio doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years, if Conley doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years. Its time for some higher upside risks.

All these George Hill comparisons aren't accurate Hills toe was bigger than Conley or Dlo.
 
Any sane person would prefer a 23 (?) year-old Russell to a 31 year-old Conley. But I suspect it would take a lot more finagling/assets to swoop D-Lo and I also have serious concerns about him re-signing long-term (unless he and Donovan really are tight).

On the other hand, I think swooping Conley for two years while still holding onto Favors would be fire.

Yeah, Conley + Favors + the full MLA is a pretty good scenario, especially if we use the room exception to essentially swap Exum (traded for Conley) for Caruso.
 
To me, it’s kinda like saying, “don’t commit to that really fun, really cute girl at the bar, because you might have a chance with a hooker.”

Lol. What? Conley is the hooker because we got to pay for it. The really fun cute girl is Russell who we would be lucky to get.
 
I don't mind risk at all. I think the Jazz should take a few more but adding Conley isn't a risk its just stupid. The time to take a risk on adding Conley was at least 2 years ago, not now. I think George Hill was a good risk, its too bad it didn't pay off. I also think Rubio was a risk, and its too bad it didn't pay off. What lessons are the Jazz not learning? Do all of the teams issues revolve around the PG? Are we the f****** Browns of the NBA? How many guys are we gonna rent? Maybe the weak a** front office just aren't taking big enough risks, thinking well if George doesn't pan out hes gone in a year, if Rubio doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years, if Conley doesn't pan out hes gone in 2 years. Its time for some higher upside risks.

Like what exactly ???
 
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