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Grade the Mike Conley Trade for Utah

  • A

    Votes: 69 53.5%

  • B

    Votes: 46 35.7%

  • C

    Votes: 11 8.5%

  • D

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    129
I feel like the players we lost are meh and easily replaceable. We kept the players we want which is good. There are a bunch of players we can sign for cheap that can replace Crowder's production.

Conley makes our team much much better. But the only concern is the 2 picks for a player that could leave after 1 year or demand a big contract for 4 years who would enter that contract at 33. It could be like what happened with Hill. He played really well in our system and then demanded a big contract. If we lose him after a year then it was a really bad trade, unless we win it all!

So B.
 
colton said:
Fixed that for you. And the fix does indeed make it tougher to decide. For me, anyway.

edit: plus it's not necessarily "two late first round picks". The second pick will likely be in 2022 with only top 6 protection, and who knows what the Jazz will be like that season. We can hope the Jazz are still in the playoffs, and we can hope they are going deep into the playoffs, but that very easily might not be the case.
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I commend you for trying to make poor Memphis feel like they didn't get fleeced. Tell us about Grayson's huge upside?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I commend you for trying to make poor Memphis feel like they didn't get fleeced. Tell us about Grayson's huge upside?
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I don't think Grayson has a huge upside, sorry. But I do think the 2022 pick could very well be in the lottery, and I'll miss Crowder. And I think we very well might have Conley for only a single year.
 
Literally the only way to hate this trade is if you don't believe that Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert can be the best two players on a championship team.
 
BTW, to all of you valuing the 23rd pick like it's an MVP candidate, teams can buy a pick every season. Everyone knows that's the only way to draft players like Gobert late in the draft.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
BTW, to all of you valuing the 23rd pick like it's an MVP candidate, teams can buy a pick every season. Everyone knows that's the only way to draft players like Gobert late in the draft.
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Who's doing that? I haven't seen too many people placing value on that pick. Speaking for myself, it's the 2022 pick I'm concerned about.
 
I gave it a c. I’m good with trading for Conley, but it should’ve been for Favors and filling, and not excited about trading Allen. Now I’m almost positive we are keeping Favors this year, which is a step in the wrong direction. I would’ve gone D but I’m high on Niang, and trading Crowder opens up minutes for Niang.
 
C. Good player, highly overpaid, cost 3 first round picks, and 3 rotation players. Lost all that coveted roster "flexibly"

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Thee jazz fan said:
I gave it a c. I’m good with trading for Conley, but it should’ve been for Favors and filling, and not excited about trading Allen. Now I’m almost positive we are keeping Favors this year, which is a step in the wrong direction. I would’ve gone D but I’m high on Niang, and trading Crowder opens up minutes for Niang.
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Favors is our best trade asset and we still have him AFTER getting Conley. Not a bad thing.
 
C - I like Conley and think he'll be really good for us, just seems more desperate than I think is necessary. Seems like the same feeling I had with the contracts of exum and favors, end up paying way more than anyone else would have. Glad to see jae go though
 
colton said:
I'm going with I for incomplete. I'll say the same thing I said about the Hill trade--it depends whether Conley reups with the Jazz or not.* Hill didn't, and because of that it was a bad trade. We'll see about Conley.

I assume the Jazz have talked to Conley and/or his agent and have some assurance that he'll be here more than a single year. But I assumed that about Hill as well.

*unless the Jazz win the title this year, in which case it was a great trade either way!
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This.
 
Changed my grade to an A.

Conley should be a significant upgrade over Rubio. I still think that Mitchell ends up the PG of the future, but this is a great “win now” move - especially if they came to the conclusion that they were going to get shut out in FA.

Losing Crowder stings, but if the Jazz can find somebody to fill his role effectively they’re going to be hard to beat. Losing Grayson, Korver and a couple of picks is a small price to pay.
 
I also have to believe Dennis gauged the interest of the free agents to be (like Harris) and determined the chance of landing any of them was very slim. Tampering isn't really a thing any more, especially after the end of the season. So maybe I should up my grade. At the very least, Dennis finally did SOMETHING major. Whether it works or not, even if Conley only stays for 1 year, I won't criticize this trade.
 
After I let my emotions come down I will regrade the trade at C-... the fit is way too good for me to give it a D... We got good player who is awesome fit and gives us exactly what we are missing. I don't like the price but oh well...
 
I'm glad I didn't have any of you as teachers or professors. Good lord some of these grades are harsh.
 
Douchebag K said:
bitches marking less than a B gonna come back and apologize in December
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and bitches marking it over B gonna come back next summer and apologize when he opts out and leaves... and we are left without 3 1st round picks and stuck with our draft picks tied up until 2024.

Acting like evaluating this trade is as simple as "will Conley play well in December?" is incredibly disingenuous. Conley's play in December is the last thing that should worry us in this trade. There is only one outcome of this trade that will make the price worth it if Conley bolts next summer - championship(or at the very least getting us to legit championship contention mode(aka, not what we've been the last 3 seasons). Otherwise you just wasted 3 1st round picks, one of them in the double draft when we are expected to be worst for a 1 year rental of Mike Conley.
 
stitches said:
and bitches marking it over B gonna come back next summer and apologize when he opts out and leaves... and we are left without 3 1st round picks and stuck with our draft picks tied up until 2024.

Acting like evaluating this trade is as simple as "will Conley play well in December?" is incredibly disingenuous. Conley's play in December is the last thing that should worry us in this trade. There is only one outcome of this trade that will make the price worth it if Conley bolts next summer - championship. Otherwise you just wasted 3 1st round picks, one of them in the double draft when we are expected to be worst for a 1 year rental of Mike Conley.
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Talk to you in a year Debbie Downer
 
Douchebag K said:
Talk to you in a year Debbie Downer
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Why am I the debbie downer? I've never doubted Conley's ability on the floor and his fit with the Jazz. This was never about Conley's play and fit. It's about his contract, his ET option, the price we paid, health risks, the protections we put on the pick, the direction we continue to take year after year... sending more and more and more picks out for rental after rental. I have no idea why it's so offensive to people that some don't love the trade...
 
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