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Another Boozer trade Rumor(I actually like it)

Beantown said:
Does Mambo not realize that the Jazz have been more successful than Portland the past 5 years?
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Making the WCF once because the Mavericks got upset isnt that much success.

Portland atleast has a ring and is atleast trying to improve their team this year so they can have a shot at the title.

Fully healthy theyre scary.

What bothers me about the Jazz is both FA/trades weve done the past 5 years has been guess who.

Kyle Korver and Boozer and after this season theyre gone. So I guess our FO`s work the past 5 seasons has been in vain.
 
Mambo said:
Making the WCF once because the Mavericks got upset isnt that much success.

Portland atleast has a ring and is atleast trying to improve their team this year so they can have a shot at the title.

Fully healthy theyre scary.

What bothers me about the Jazz is both FA/trades weve done the past 5 years has been guess who.

Kyle Korver and Boozer and after this season theyre gone. So I guess our FO`s work the past 5 seasons has been in vain.
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Now you're just reaching. Portland's last championship was in 1977. You look at who's been the more consistently successful team in the last 30 years and get back to me on that one.

"Fully healthy they're scary" same could be said about the Utah Jazz.

What you are failing miserably to see is that at the end of the day, the Jazz have been better than the Portland Trailblazers. Sure the trailblazers have made a few moves here and there, but it has not resulted in a greater success than the Utah Jazz whom you are hating on at the moment. It's end result. The Blazers passed on Chris Paul and Deron Williams. That alone should warrant "dumb@$$ of the century" more than anything Utah has ever passed on.

Sorry to burst your flawed argument, but the Jazz are better, and have been better no matter how much you hate KOC.
 
jazzmeister said:
Now you're just reaching. Portland's last championship was in 1977. You look at who's been the more consistently successful team in the last 30 years and get back to me on that one.

"Fully healthy they're scary" same could be said about the Utah Jazz.

What you are failing miserably to see is that at the end of the day, the Jazz have been better than the Portland Trailblazers. Sure the trailblazers have made a few moves here and there, but it has not resulted in a greater success than the Utah Jazz whom you are hating on at the moment. It's end result. The Blazers passed on Chris Paul and Deron Williams. That alone should warrant "dumb@$$ of the century" more than anything Utah has ever passed on.

Sorry to burst your flawed argument, but the Jazz are better, and have been better no matter how much you hate KOC.
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Portland holds the record for consecutive playoff appearances at like 24 If memory serves right.

Fully Healthy Blazers is mroe scary next year than the Jazz.
 
jazzmeister said:
"Fully healthy they're scary" same could be said about the Utah Jazz.
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****ING. BULL ****. Homer-*** bull ****.

What kind of scary, getting into the lane anytime you want scary? Being able to sag in as a defensive strategy scary?
 
Mambo said:
Portland holds the record for consecutive playoff appearances at like 24 If memory serves right.

Fully Healthy Blazers is mroe scary next year than the Jazz.
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Hoping Oden stays healthy is like BYU fans hoping they will make a BCS. Super long shot at very best.
 
P.S. If the Jazz can just dump AK, why are they not just keeping Boozer instead of trading for washed up trash and bench guys? Getting back Vince's contract is a nightmare and if there's anything I know about this organization, it's that they only overpay for their own crap, not somebody else's.
 
NUMBERICA said:
****ING. BULL ****. Homer-*** bull ****.

What kind of scary, getting into the lane anytime you want scary? Being able to sag in as a defensive strategy scary?
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Miller/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/babbit/Gomes
La/Pryz
Oden/Camby

Deron/Price
Matthews/CJ
AK/Hayward
Millsap
Fes/okur

Blazers are better than that lineup which is why i pray to god we do something this Offseason when Boozer leaves.
 
NUMBERICA said:
P.S. If the Jazz can just dump AK, why are they not just keeping Boozer instead of trading for washed up trash and bench guys? Getting back Vince's contract is a nightmare and if there's anything I know about this organization, it's that they only overpay for their own crap, not somebody else's.
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It must be hard to be you. Cheer up bucko it's just hoops.
 
At worst, Portland as 2 awesome basket-protectors/rebounders. At best, Utah has... maybe one (can Millsap be given the title of a basket-protector?)? There's a lot of wash in that lineup, Portland has A TON more options/depth, though, and having interior defense vs. not is a hell of a tie-breaker.
 
Well, I like Gortat... the VC expiring looks promising, but we would have to get rid of AK to do that. That means we have to potentially get rid of 2 pf, and get a sf and c back.
 
This rumor is flat out inconceivable. The only way it would make any sense is if it was Boozer AND AK. I can sort of see that, but not for the guys Orlando is sending back. All KOC has to remember is Otis Smith is the desperate one here, AND he's got a spending problem. Guys like that you make twist in the wind, especially since Booze is going to be getting other offers. Eventually, Smith will cave to the idea of Boozer getting a 6 year offer, Booze wants to be in Florida, anyway, and Smith will fork over whatever the Jazz want to keep up with the Joneses.
 
The cap/luxury tax situation is that the Jazz simply can't afford Boozer, so getting players back in a sign-and-trade only works if they also move AK or Okur. If they're not getting a legitimate asset back, I'm not sure why they would be willing to pay the tax.

Also, comparing the Utah Jazz and the Portland Trailblazers from '79 is essentially a wash. When you consider the money the Blazers have spent on their roster, you could easily make the argument the Utah front office has had more success given their resources. Regardless, a "Jazz fan" claiming Portland is a vastly superior franchise is bizarre. I think Mambo should go to a Blazers message board.
 
NUMBERICA said:
****ING. BULL ****. Homer-*** bull ****.

What kind of scary, getting into the lane anytime you want scary? Being able to sag in as a defensive strategy scary?
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Please cut the ties with this Jazz relationship. Negativity all the time gets pretty old. You can do it.
 
This is easily the lamest thread I've ever seen on the internet, excluding the Boozer-to-the-Magic part. Everyone that's been participating in this pathetic little Blazers vs Jazz argument, I have one word for you: seppuku.

That said, I'd freak out if the Jazz took Carter's deal. I'd probably take the year off from following basketball.
 
I don't know if it's already been said but hoopshype has now reported that Orlando wants nothing to do with Carlos Boozer
 
Mambo said:
Well I mean isnt that the main goal of an NBA Franchise? to be the best and win a ring?


I mean hell if Milwaukee/Bullets/Warriors can do it why cant we?
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Wow, they all won rings in the Carter and Nixon administrations. Amazing and totally relevant to anything.

Guess what, the Kings won a championship as the Rochester Royals. What an amazing f'ing achievement for them.
 
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