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We signed Emmanuel Mudiay

I don't expect much from him, but this feels like a good shot to take on a young player with pedigree that might be ready to take a step forward. Cy said earlier that he likes the signing because of his athleticism... but the thing is... he used to look athletic pre-draft... in the league he doesn't really play athletic... he looks more like the strong and sturdy type than bouncy and super quick.
 
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
 
Jack Strop said:
To be fair, this has less to do with Zanik and more with Dennis' plan. Lindsey is still in charge and he always pointed towards - and made moves - to ensure Utah could be a player in free agency this season. He had Udoh and Thabo come off the books, and arranged the contracts of Favors and apparently Neto to be 1+1's. And Ricky as an expiring, too. I have to admit I doubted him. And to be honest, Jazz could have (and should have) had a couple of these one-year deals last year.

But Lindsey and Zanik are killing it this off-season. Davis and Mudiay could be absolute STUDS for us. And I guess there really IS truth to the narrative about Utah's development staff as that was a reason stated by Mudiay's agent for him choosing Utah. Isn't it great to see attitudes changing about the great city of Utah? Derek Harper must be turning over in his grave right about now
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This is all about the plan that Dennis put in place and Dennis is still in charge. Sorting out the timing of when and how was never an exact science but is far from something that happened this year.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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I don't get it either. It's like people enjoy ******** on him and mostly for things he has zero control over. Oh well... there always has to be a scape goat. I guess it's his turn this time around.

It's also cute how people think Mudiay is better than Exum... Exum with half of his tendons, knee ligaments torn and shoulders broken is better than anything Mudiay has ever shown in the NBA.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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People just want to hate somebody. They can't just enjoy the moment without trashing somebody.

There is room and time for Exum and Mudiay.

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stitches said:
I don't get it either. It's like people enjoy ******** on him and mostly for things he has zero control over. Oh well... there always has to be a scape goat. I guess it's his turn this time around.

It's also cute how people think Mudiay is better than Exum... Exum with half of his tendons, knee ligaments torn and shoulders broken is better than anything Mudiay has ever shown in the NBA.
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And Mudiay has been given ample time and opportunity. He had what 2 1/2 seasons doing whatever he wanted to do Denver .. and did nothing much but throw brick after brick
 
Et tu Brute said:
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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I think the haters hate the fanboys more than the actual kid.
 
Douchebag K said:
And Mudiay has been given ample time and opportunity. He had what 2 1/2 seasons doing whatever he wanted to do Denver .. and did nothing much but throw brick after brick
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But he improved a bit from that. And we aren't asking him to start, simply to run 3rd/2nd PG duties. Utah's sudden influx of shooting opens lanes for him and he'll have some scoring around him in Ingles, Niang, and Royce chilling on the perimeter and a slasher in Exum. He specifically signed here to do the work and Utah is showing faith in him. In this program, he'll be learning from Conley, Mitchell, and our coaches while having the pressure of starting removed.

I look at it like this. Mudiay is a good improvement over Neto. If he gets his game right, Utah has a success story to trumpet to other FAs to say "Look at what we did!" If he doesn't, that's on him and we're out nothing. If he succeeds and likes it, Utah has a guard they can use and continue to finesse into a guy that can maybe replace Conley when the time comes. If he succeeds and doesn't want to stay or gets that big money offer, there's no hard feelings and we wish the dude well. If he flat sucks, we still have Exum and Mitchell to spell Conley as necessary. I see no downsides here.
 
TheStormofWar said:
But he improved a bit from that. And we aren't asking him to start, simply to run 3rd/2nd PG duties. Utah's sudden influx of shooting opens lanes for him and he'll have some scoring around him in Ingles, Niang, and Royce chilling on the perimeter and a slasher in Exum. He specifically signed here to do the work and Utah is showing faith in him. In this program, he'll be learning from Conley, Mitchell, and our coaches while having the pressure of starting removed.

I look at it like this. Mudiay is a good improvement over Neto. If he gets his game right, Utah has a success story to trumpet to other FAs to say "Look at what we did!" If he doesn't, that's on him and we're out nothing. If he succeeds and likes it, Utah has a guard they can use and continue to finesse into a guy that can maybe replace Conley when the time comes. If he succeeds and doesn't want to stay or gets that big money offer, there's no hard feelings and we wish the dude well. If he flat sucks, we still have Exum and Mitchell to spell Conley as necessary. I see no downsides here.
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Dude don’t get me wrong, I agree. I’m actually looking forward to seeing what he’s like and whether he improves. Denver got a bunch better without him tho
 
Et tu Brute said:
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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I guess it all depends on how serious you take this stuff. A lot was invested in Exum. When you whiff on a #5 pick it has reverberating effects. Do it too many times and you become the Sacramento Kings.
 
yamers said:
Actually hes better than rubio right now
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Knew I was forgetting someone.
Et tu Brute said:
I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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There is not one person on this board that thinks this way, not one!!
stitches said:
I don't get it either. It's like people enjoy ******** on him and mostly for things he has zero control over. Oh well... there always has to be a scape goat. I guess it's his turn this time around.

It's also cute how people think Mudiay is better than Exum... Exum with half of his tendons, knee ligaments torn and shoulders broken is better than anything Mudiay has ever shown in the NBA.
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Mudiay was pretty damn good last year. Let’s have some objectivity here. Exum hasn’t done anything close to what Mudiay did last year, and he’s going to have to earn what Exum has now, and at the same time, there’s a good chance Exum ends up on IR at some point because that’s been his home every year since his rookie year. Just like Mudiay has to work his way into a rotation, Exum needs to prove he can stay on the court. Fact is Exum has never been as relevant to his team as Mudiay was to his team last year or any year for that matter.
 
Sandman822 said:


I'm gonna trust the opinion of the Jazz FO over the opinion of 40% of Jazzfanz
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We don't know the real opinion of the FO. The Jazz considered Favors a part of the plan and wanted to bring him back....until they found a better option!
The same will hold true for Exum, especially now that the Jazz are a little cash strapped. If Mudiay is better than Exum at 2 million a year, why wouldn't you look to scuttle a player making 12m a year?
 
Et tu Brute said:
Man Exum is really hated around these parts now.
Do people just resent him cause of his contract, bustability (increasing in likelihood) and injuries etc?
Cause the kid seems like about as down to earth, humble and hardworking as you can get and every second fan on hear ****s all over him at every opportunity.

I really believe there are some on here that really would be shattered if he proved to be an effective role player or better.
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Some people actually blame him for getting hurt. Jazz nation always find a whipping boy and they have chosen Exum. Personally, I don't get all the vile comments. The kid has had very bad luck. He is a good teammate and person from everything I have heard. I hope he does well just to shut up the haters. Exum has been a disappoint for being the 5th pick. Look at the draft pretty much everyone slotted around him has been a disappoint except Emblid and he was hurt too. I have lowered my expectations but I hope he succeeds simply because he continues to work his butt off to get on the court. No complaining just rehabbing which sucks if any of you have ever had to do it. He has had to do it 3 times. I bet Exum is way more frustrated with himself. So we don't need to pile on.
 
yamers said:
Lol its not even close, mudiay is better at everything on offense, but maybe exum has a bit better defense, but exums offense is so atrocious that cancels out everything he can do on defense.
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Are you kidding me? Mudiay is a sieve defensively. Exum is actually, good. Good enough that good players do worse against him. Screenshot_20190702-185316.png
 
The Thriller said:
A point always missed by exum’s fanboys. Whatever positives he brings on defense are quickly outweighed by his atrocious offense. He’s good for essentially 3 turnovers a game. One, where he just loses control of the ball in traffic. another for one of his out of control drives where he runs 100 mph and puts a dent in the backboard by chucking the ball at it. And finally another by being left wide open to a corner 3 and stepping out of bounds.

Exum’s stepping out of bounds on shooting a corner 3 was as predictable as a Grayson travel, crowder hard foul, jingles trolling job on another player, and Boler screwing up a skip pass call.
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Hey numbnuts, he's good for about 1.2 turnovers per game. He actually had a 2.16:1 assist to TO ratio.

Mudiay on the other hand, had a 1.6:1 A:TO ratio.

Math is hard.
 
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