I want to say the crime denotes no bail. Having someone that's as big a flight risk as this guy should put it over the bar.
Epstein is in Trouble
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I want to say the crime denotes no bail. Having someone that's as big a flight risk as this guy should put it over the bar.
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Wouldn't have mattered.
Trump could rape a bunch of babies and then kill them in the middle of times square and the trumpers would still vote for him.
****ing partisanship sucks
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It was hot news for 12 hours. Trump accepted a phone call from the Prime Minister of Taiwan. Sorry, I said Hong Kong originally. People came out of the wood work to say that this is terrible because it recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation when China does not consider it such. I saw many on facebook sharing these links and people in a panic. All of the sudden people acted like they had any idea what this meant prior to people introducing a context to them.
Anyway, basically go at any controversy you've heard of Trump. This probably has more legs than it, or it's more important.
I'm suggesting it wasn't reported precisely because of partisanship. Main reason being that Bill Clinton is significantly more tied to Epstein than Trump is, and if anyone wanted to pick up the very legitimate Trump/Epstein story, it happened to be laced with a stronger Clinton connection, and I had always believed that it was a non-starter for the media and hence the silence.
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Yeah, because the media never reports on Clinton scandals. Not ever. Not even a little.[\sarcasm]
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Because we all know the media hates talking about Clinton scandals. Nevermind the near nonstop coverage of Bengazi, private email servers, Uranium One and the Clinton foundation. Not to mention Lewinsky.
Do you have any other postulation on why nobody knew about this story? All I have is Occam's razor.
See above.
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That's hardly what I'd call an example of Occams Razor. Seems more likely to me that the reason this story has legs now is that new charges are being brought thus more information has come to light.
FWIW I do remember Trump's (and Clinton's and others) connection to Epstein being talked about around the election. There wasn't anything "new" in that reporting from what I recall, but there were plenty of other revelations about Trump's sexual impropiety that ended up getting more attention. In fact I also remember there being more coverage of Clinton's alleged rape of Juanita Broderick and renewed attention on Bills other sex scandals around the election, again they didn't get a ton of traction because there was nothing new in the reporting. That's usually how news works in my experience.
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Because even as little as three years ago, people were less worried about men having sex with teen girls. You've forgotten?
I remember “grab them by the *****” being pretty big. But I suppose my memory fails. I guess raping 13 year olds was kosher then and I’ve just taken for granted that it’s only recently that it’s become taboo.
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Partisan for who? Seems like the conservatives should have brought it up to get Clinton. The Democrats should have ran with it to get Trump. The independent media should have ran with it to get em both.
I'm not seeing partisanship in this one
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You just laid out hugely partisan arguments. I’m not going to accuse you of murder if you were my accomplice. I mean, I could, but it’d be pretty stupid.
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No I'm saying that since no one cared maybe it's cause no one cared. Not because of partisanship.
To use your example, if you and I were accomplices to a murder and there was a third party (independent media, candidates, voters, people that are not Republicans or democrats and who aren't fans of Hillary or Trump, or people who actually hated both Hillary and Trump) to know about it but not be complicit then they will probably report it. Unless it was just that no one cared sadly.
What would be the reason for the independent media not to go after them? Were the independent parties and candidates accomplices as well? Maybe it's simply a case of no one cared. Sucks but maybe it's true.
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Independent media were the only who covered it. And if nobody cared, how does that explain the popular “grab them by the *****”? I mean, him speaking hypothetically about grabbing by the ***** vs. being credibly accused of not just grabbing by the *****, but rape. Of a minor.
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Yeah, you partisan liberal hacks ignore everything don't you. ANTIFA beats up a gay conservative reporter, steals his camera and no coverage on the liberal mainstream media, all the info coming down on Brennen, Clapper, Page, etc. etc. on spying on the Trump campaign with no real proof. I could go on for a hour easy.
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Tell me Fishon since you think you are so smart. Why did so many people at the top of the FBI resign, got demoted, got reassigned or had to quit? Hey they were just doing what Obama wanted. You liberals are lily white right?
But I will give you socialist democrats credit, you are very smart at being devious. You bought up almost all the mainstream media and magazines. You put liberals in colleges and schools to brainwash the kids. Hey, lets have 16 year olds vote right Fishon. Hey let's give illegals drivers license so the have ID to register to vote. Hey, since a majority of prison inmates are black and ninety % blacks vote democratic let's push for them to vote. Hey, lets enlarge the supreme court so we can stack it with liberals. Hey, we want to stimi Trump trying to stop illegals from entering the United States, so let's get the ACLU to file lawsuits in the ninth circuit (liberal) court to stop him. Let Pelosi tell illegals how to avoid being arrested by Ice. We must protect our voter base right libs. Then you people call us partisan hacks for voting for Trump. Devils brew for you.
But I will give you socialist democrats credit, you are very smart at being devious. You bought up almost all the mainstream media and magazines. You put liberals in colleges and schools to brainwash the kids. Hey, lets have 16 year olds vote right Fishon. Hey let's give illegals drivers license so the have ID to register to vote. Hey, since a majority of prison inmates are black and ninety % blacks vote democratic let's push for them to vote. Hey, lets enlarge the supreme court so we can stack it with liberals. Hey, we want to stimi Trump trying to stop illegals from entering the United States, so let's get the ACLU to file lawsuits in the ninth circuit (liberal) court to stop him. Let Pelosi tell illegals how to avoid being arrested by Ice. We must protect our voter base right libs. Then you people call us partisan hacks for voting for Trump. Devils brew for you.
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I guess one thing was right in our faces and obvious. The other wasn't.
Also, I don't know why nobody cared. I guess we are a country of deplorables. We should have cared. We didn't. I don't think it was because Hillary and Trump had tons of fans lol
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No idea what you are talking about. Which is par for the course.
You don't make much sense.
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