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It's true. Do you know who benefited most financially from the Iraq War? Halliburton, the defense contractor, of which Cheney was CEO before becoming V-P, and in which he owned massive amounts of stock. He and Rummy, that old fart, were part of a group called The Project of the New American Century, which some believe laid the groundwork for war in the Middle East and which some believe orchestrated 9-11 as a pretext for the war.
 
It's true. Do you know who benefited most financially from the Iraq War? Halliburton, the defense contractor, of which Cheney was CEO before becoming V-P, and in which he owned massive amounts of stock. He and Rummy, that old fart, were part of a group called The Project of the New American Century, which some believe laid the groundwork for war in the Middle East and which some believe orchestrated 9-11 as a pretext for the war.


Lol. Another gift
 
Not missed, just not impressed with your bait attempts.

That you think I was baiting you means you missed the point.

Now, whatever you do, you must keep insisting you got the point, and making statements to that regard, which statements still miss the point. Under no circumstances should you try to look deeper, or maybe just ask me what my point was. That was would be too non-confrontational, and you can't own a lib that way.
 
You know who she is, the daughter of the heinous, slimy, putrid, evil architect of 9-11 and the Iraq War. Anything she says is b.s.

But what she said is pretty much how most Americans see it.

Trump is not a "racist" in any sense of ill will. He was proud of the work his union workers(mostly black) did in building his New York tower. He actually has thought so little about "race issues" he is sure to not even see the subtleties of his off-the-cuff expressions.

He builds stuff. Hires people who can do the job.

well, as for 9-11 the official history is..... well..... something else.

I think that since Obama's time, there have been organized agitators including media players really pushing race issues as a political tool. Balkanization and division of Americans being organized for political purposes.


What Trump is doing is anything BUT petty. He's doing, saying, proposing, and enacting one HORRIBLE ****ing thing after another

I was watching MSNBC coverage on TV in a room crowded with black folks yesterday. They were totally bored with the news.

David Webb discussed this on his radio program, and informed the listeners that he had talked to Trump since his tweets.

Said he would have said it different, better..... laughed..... said Trump is Trump.

said most parents have told their kids that at some point.... hopefully before they went off to college, not after.....

America is America because of the ideas of human rights it has cultivated. Some people believe other countries have worse governments that don't protect people's rights as well, nor give them as much opportunity. A lot of people question socialism/globalism on issues that negatively impact the little guy, where ever he's from. If you want bigger government with more power in the bureaucracy and less in the hands of people..... its a fair question.

There are lots of countries where "American" ideas are not the norm, socialists.... have a lot of choices of better governments with better as in more progressive societies.

Since Trump's tweets, I've been thinking of doing a poll thread. What country should we relocate Jazzfanz to, where there will be less to complain about because of backward political ideas?

Kicky thinks the American Constitution is such a problematic thing he won't talk to people who prattle on about it in a positive light. He was in Ukraine recently, I wonder if things are better there.....

Ron is going to help out in China. sports training though. maybe some pamphleteering. Wonder what it'd be like to go online there and complain about Dear Leader Xi Jinpeng.

I like Putin. He's possibly a post-ideological Russian..... a Russian Nationalist. Jon Huntsman Jr. is our Ambassador there....the same Huntsman family as tried to start up a petrochemical unit there, and was run off by Putin because Putin actually took a position that Russian resources are for Russian oligarchs who smile just right for Putin.

Anybody here really think Russia is a superior, more advanced society????

We had a few people in here from Turkey. We haven't even heard from them since the riots against the Pres. there......

I am in absolute awe of Sonnie Johnson, of Sonnie's Corner..... Lots of stuff I never knew. I bet a lot of things I've said really put some folks on the spot. Mostly, however, since I smile when I talk, they smile back. Sure I don't say all the right things.
 
But what she said is pretty much how most Americans see it.

I really want to know how you came to that conclusion.

A quicky search shows multiple polls about Trump's latest tweets would claim otherwise. One poll by USA today shows 59% found his tweets in American.

There is a reason Trump is not well supported. Most people dislike him and don't think he is doing a good job.

The vast majority of minorites in the USA think Trump is racist and that his policies hurt them.
 
It's true. Do you know who benefited most financially from the Iraq War? Halliburton, the defense contractor, of which Cheney was CEO before becoming V-P, and in which he owned massive amounts of stock. He and Rummy, that old fart, were part of a group called The Project of the New American Century, which some believe laid the groundwork for war in the Middle East and which some believe orchestrated 9-11 as a pretext for the war.
I really want to know how you came to that conclusion.

A quicky search shows multiple polls about Trump's latest tweets would claim otherwise. One poll by USA today shows 59% found his tweets in American.

There is a reason Trump is not well supported. Most people dislike him and don't think he is doing a good job.

The vast majority of minorites in the USA think Trump is racist and that his policies hurt them.

I don't cut and paste my opinions from MSNBC. People I meet might not tell me everything they think. I disbelieve USA, NYT, CNN etc. Few people I see pay attention to the news.

what "vast majority" is there hiding out where I don't see them?
 
I don't cut and paste my opinions from MSNBC. People I meet might not tell me everything they think. I disbelieve USA, NYT, CNN etc. Few people I see pay attention to the news.

what "vast majority" is there hiding out where I don't see them?
So based on who you associate with you drew that conclusion for the entire country? That is very anecdotal and often inaccurate. The people I talk to mostly dislike Trump. In fact I have been in 6 states and 4 countries in the last month. I have yet to talk to someone that supported Trump. I was in a Washington DC for the 4th of July. I heard Trumps name a lot, rarely in a good way. Most of the people visiting the white house were flipping Trump off, foreigners, or protesters. Although there were a lot of MAGA hats as well so I am aware that there are people who like and support Trump. That is why polls can be so great.

What about this message board? This message board is mostly Utah people. One of the most conservative states in the USA. What is most peoples view on here? That kind of hurts your argument. Or do you not count the opinions of people you disagree with?

It is most likely that people who disagree with you that you talk to just keep their mouth shut and just kind of agree with you because they dont want to argue about politics. You are seeing what you want to see.
 
I’ll don’t have any faith in Ted Cruz for example.

Sure I’m talking about probably the minuscule minority but being a member of Congress doesn’t exclude on from disliking this country or being an impediment to a healthy lifestyle.

It's astonishing that Trump has given so many politicians, including Cruz, atomic wedgies and they still fall in line. Think of the myriad scandals Trump has had. Thousands of them at this point. Remember when he had a filthy mouth at the Boy Scout convention?
 
Thanks, yes, there are some informative posts and varying perspectives offered in this thread. From my own perspective, I believe observing Trump is his natural element, standing before and above his adoring followers, is one of the best ways to see, clearly, what is happening right now in our lifetime, and in our nation. The heck with his tweets. Observe him where he displays his demagoguery in its sharpest focus. It really is chilling.

Great insight. I agree.
 
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Look, I watched MSNBC yesterday. Anyone who doesn't believe the way social justice democrats do does not suffer from a lack of knowledge. It's "Lack of Proper Indoctrination", as objectively determined by the proper authorities. Let's get those re-education camps up and running, and make sure all the unindoctrinated, uninformed folks get the relevant information.

Hilarious to think the indoctrination of the Left comes even close to the indoctrination of the Right. The Right are all about indoctrination... religious indoctrination, economic indoctrination, social indoctrination. What's fascinating is a guy who has never been a Republican has now indoctrinated the Right too. They are easily indoctrinated.
 
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So based on who you associate with you drew that conclusion for the entire country? That is very anecdotal and often inaccurate. The people I talk to mostly dislike Trump. In fact I have been in 6 states and 4 countries in the last month. I have yet to talk to someone that supported Trump. I was in a Washington DC for the 4th of July. I heard Trumps name a lot, rarely in a good way. Most of the people visiting the white house were flipping Trump off, foreigners, or protesters. Although there were a lot of MAGA hats as well so I am aware that there are people who like and support Trump. That is why polls can be so great.

What about this message board? This message board is mostly Utah people. One of the most conservative states in the USA. What is most peoples view on here? That kind of hurts your argument. Or do you not count the opinions of people you disagree with?

It is most likely that people who disagree with you that you talk to just keep their mouth shut and just kind of agree with you because they dont want to argue about politics. You are seeing what you want to see.

They probably withhold their opinion around babe because they're afraid he'll launch into a sermon about the socioeconomic impact of donkey farts on Peruvian sheepherders.
 
Depends on the words and the message behind them. If we are talking about that specific tweet, I would've worded it differently but I also believe the message itself was not intended to be racist.
Being racist shouldn't be the only thing that matters. Maybe don't be a dick to a bunch of people in a generalizing kinda way? Do better as president and stuff ya know

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Once again, why aren’t we holding our president up to (any) standards now? @fishonjazz nailed it. Shouldn’t we hold him up to the highest standard? Hell, any standard would do now.

If any of us said what he says daily, we’d be fired, kicked out of school, and face criminal charges. It’s really incredible when you think about it. And I’m sure tomorrow morning will be no different. He’ll tweet more divisive garbage that would get any of us fired. And Trumpers everywhere will just giggle and explain what “dear leader” actually meant.
 
Yet another inspiring rally from our president:

Lies about Omar and then the crowd chants, “send her back.”

But yeah, I guess my family is doing ok so I’ll look the other way...



Yikes, that video really made me cringe. That should be an eye opener to many.
 
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