I get that. "Crying about it" could fit, figuratively. "Crying for it" wouldn't.
Team's biggest mistake
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The Thriller
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If not trading for Love was our biggest mistake this offseason then we really did have a perfect summer. Ridiculous.
David Ginola 14
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Bad defender, injuried player and horrible contract..
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Cptgrnlngs22
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Why can’t we put together the same package for Blake griffin? Conley and Griffin would be the closest thing to Stockton and Malone we’ve had plus we still have Donnie and Rudy. And bogie can light it up as good as hornaceck ever did.
Conley
Mitchell
Bogdonavic
Griffin
Gobert
With plenty of depth still with Mudiay, Royce, Green, Niang, and Davis.
Griffin is the LA Bane and I want him to come play for the jazz and beat the shot outta em nahhh saaayyyiiinnn!
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Conley
Mitchell
Bogdonavic
Griffin
Gobert
With plenty of depth still with Mudiay, Royce, Green, Niang, and Davis.
Griffin is the LA Bane and I want him to come play for the jazz and beat the shot outta em nahhh saaayyyiiinnn!
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Kyoto
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This article is stupid. How many overpaid players do they think the Jazz could use? I like Kevin Love on the Jazz, but not for that contracthttps://bleacherreport.com/articles/2848068-every-nba-teams-biggest-l-of-the-offseason#slide1
From this article, our Jazz is perfect this offseason
Utah Jazz: Not trading for Kevin Love
While the Jazz made major additions this summer with Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic and Ed Davis, trading for Kevin Love really would have put them in title contention.
Love, 30, is still an excellent scorer and rebounder when healthy, now with championship experience under his belt. Rudy Gobert could cover up any issues he has defensively, and Utah as a whole was second in the NBA in defensive rating last season even before trading for Conley.
The Jazz can still put together a reasonably attractive package for the five-time All-Star power forward. The combination of Joe Ingles, Dante Exum and some salary filler would make the money work, and Utah can still trade first-round picks in 2022 or 2024. While losing a fan favorite in Ingles would hurt, it would give the Jazz a star-studded starting lineup of Conley, Donovan Mitchell, Bogdanovic, Love and Gobert.
If Utah starts to fall back in a crowded Western Conference, a trade for Love should be seriously considered.
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GVC
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The Jazz need to add a bunch more salary to a trade to add Griffin:
Blake Griffin's 2019/20 salary: $34,234,964
Minimum salary required in a trade for Blake Griffin: $27,307,971.20
Exum + Ingles 2019/20 salary: $21,554,546
Additional Salary required in trade: $5,753,425.20
Ed Davis would pretty much have to be sent to Detroit to make the trade work--along with another player or two. The Jazz could do this next offseason by including Tony Bradley.
Keefe
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No interest in Griffin. He’d eat up far too many touches that others need, would inhibit Mitchell’s growth imo, wouldn’t have the well-defined role that Love would (I don’t want Love either) and his contract is far more than Love’s iirc, thus completely prohibiting us going forward.
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I really like Griffin, yet I agree with you.
Honestly I'm pretty damn content and happy with the team we have. Don't really really any changes to it. Let's see how the dust settles at the end of this season. I predict we will be top 3 and a good chance at #1.
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Honestly I'm pretty damn content and happy with the team we have. Don't really really any changes to it. Let's see how the dust settles at the end of this season. I predict we will be top 3 and a good chance at #1.
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stormkoopacv03
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Love is a complete injury prone, we'd be paying his @** as he sits on the bench half the season and the whole playoffs. No thanks.
I'm okay with watching him until February to see if he can still contribute. If he's looking good, it might be worth it. But I wouldn't risk an entire year.
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JazzyFresh
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I'd actually really like Love on the team for a third of the salary and no trade.
Yes, but if he’s looking good he then becomes unattainable. People are never interested in making moves for people when their stock is low because [reasons why the stock is low], but they’re interested in waiting to see if the value rebounds, thinking they’ll be able to grab it for the same cost as when it was low.
I'm less-low on Love than most. I do think the Jazz could use a bit more firepower and I do think this is the year to go for it, but sending Ingles for Love trades out a lot of important attributes to diminishing returns on offense. I don't know how the Jazz address this given the asset and salary composition of the Jazz (which is why I wanted the Jazz to sign vets that would be paid the max vet minimum amount, although I of course understand trying to churn out some diamonds in the rough).
Gallinari would be the play for me. Except I would try to find a way to not send Ingles, which makes the money basically impossible.
I'm just rambling now.
Gallinari would be the play for me. Except I would try to find a way to not send Ingles, which makes the money basically impossible.
I'm just rambling now.
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He might still be attainable for rather cheap. Cavs can't rebuild properly with love on the roster.
Maybe instead of them giving up assets to rid themselves of him right now, they get very minor assets to get rid of him after he shows he can still play.
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ghsartin
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Kevin Love has been injury-prone throughout his career and has missed significant time because of injuries each of the last three seasons. He is never going to be really health again. Besides, due to his rapidly declining athleticism, Love can't even finish inside anymore. Last season, according to basketball-reference.com, he shot 51.7% from close range (0 to 3 feet from the basket). That was worse than any Jazz player, with the exception of Naz Mitrou-Long. Nowadays, Love is basically nailed to the ground. He can't move laterally on the defensive side and can't jump to finish near the rim on the offensive one. Besides, he shot only 25% on threes last season, although he is probably going to be an slightly above average outside shooter going forward. He still rebounds, of course, but that is on smarts and thoughness. In other words, Love is strictly a role player these days, and a somewhat problematic one - someone that has to be hidden on the defense and that on offense doesn't do much besides shooting from outside. I think you should get over him.
Jack Strop
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Good post, ghsartin
At this point in his career, Love might not be an improvement at all vs. the players we have. Besides, I think Jazz will be going small for a good chunk of the game with Ingles and Bojan at the 3 and 4. It would be nice to find a more permanent solution than Green, but I don't think Love, even if we could get him, is the answer.
At this point in his career, Love might not be an improvement at all vs. the players we have. Besides, I think Jazz will be going small for a good chunk of the game with Ingles and Bojan at the 3 and 4. It would be nice to find a more permanent solution than Green, but I don't think Love, even if we could get him, is the answer.