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I'm curious as to what parts of the Jazz's identity you expect will change and which will remain similar this coming season.

The following have been markers of the Jazz's identity, some for a long time, some more recently. Some are based on stats, some on reputation or even stereotype.

Which are most likely to change this year, which do you expect will not? (Answer however you like, but you might consider giving a rating between 1 and 5 for those you discuss, for unlikely to very likely to change, respectively.)

- a top defense
- average offense
- offensive production exceeds the players' individual talent
- deliberate offensive pace
- among the leaders in passes and ball/player movement
- relatively little one-on-one offense
- advantage basketball
- among the leaders in turnovers committed
- top half in turnovers produced
- among the leaders in shotblocking
- top 10 in league in both 3-pointers shot and % made
- relatively low in 2-pointers taken, but high in % made
- high in free throws taken, but low in % made
- one of the toughest, most physical teams to play against
- end of close games means give the ball to Donovan and hope he creates something
- point differential produces more expected wins than actual wins
- egalitarian assists (no one player dominates assist totals)
- relatively poor fast-break team
- great at preventing fast-breaks from opponent
- produce open shots at a high level
- make open shots at a relatively low level
- can offensive rebound when offense bogs down
- offense bogs down frequently
- relatively good performance against poor teams
- relatively poor performance against good teams
- lots of blowout wins
- a better regular-season than playoff team
- an undesirable destination for good players
- good chemistry
- long
- lacking in athleticism or talent (compared to closest peers)
 
idiot said:
I'm curious as to what parts of the Jazz's identity you expect will change and which will remain similar this coming season.

The following have been markers of the Jazz's identity, some for a long time, some more recently. Some are based on stats, some on reputation or even stereotype.

Which are most likely to change this year, which do you expect will not? (Answer however you like, but you might consider giving a rating between 1 and 5 for those you discuss, for unlikely to very likely to change, respectively.)

- a top defense
- average offense
- offensive production exceeds the players' individual talent
- deliberate offensive pace
- among the leaders in passes and ball/player movement
- relatively little one-on-one offense
- advantage basketball
- among the leaders in turnovers committed
- top half in turnovers produced
- among the leaders in shotblocking
- top 10 in league in both 3-pointers shot and % made
- relatively low in 2-pointers taken, but high in % made
- high in free throws taken, but low in % made
- one of the toughest, most physical teams to play against
- end of close games means give the ball to Donovan and hope he creates something
- point differential produces more expected wins than actual wins
- egalitarian assists (no one player dominates assist totals)
- relatively poor fast-break team
- great at preventing fast-breaks from opponent
- produce open shots at a high level
- make open shots at a relatively low level
- can offensive rebound when offense bogs down
- offense bogs down frequently
- relatively good performance against poor teams
- relatively poor performance against good teams
- lots of blowout wins
- a better regular-season than playoff team
- an undesirable destination for good players
- good chemistry
- long
- lacking in athleticism or talent (compared to closest peers)
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Things that change.

Average offense to great offense
Offense exceeds talent changes to offense reflects talent
Among league leaders in TOs to top 1/3 in ball security
Top 10 on 3s to top 5
End of close games, it’ll now be multi faceted. 5 players now get shots instead of 1
Open shots are made at a much higher %
Offense won’t bog down
Performance against good teams stays constant
Lethal regular team, excellent playoff team
Players are already looking at Utah. That continues to improve
Last point is already untrue
 
I hope that this season we will be able to prevail in games which are tied towards the end. Last season very often when we were up or down by 1-2 points in the last 2 minutes or so you could sense that we were going to loose. I don't remember any game won by the clutch shot by Jazz in 2018-19. I think that addition of Conley and Bogdanovic will change that giving us more quality and options in the last seconds shot situations.
 
What stays the same? Great defense and a dunkathon on offense! What changes? MUCH better outside shooting including much better 3 point shooting! Much better schedule and much better start to the season! What also changes? About 10 more wins!
 
When i look this year roster i tend to think we may work more with switching with help d (especially when rudy sits, but still see us doing much more of it through 1-4 at the starting lineup than what we're used to) and way more box out too
 
rjfan said:
When i look this year roster i tend to think we may work more with switching with help d (especially when rudy sits, but still see us doing much more of it through 1-4 at the starting lineup than what we're used to)
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I think the previous limit on switching 1-4 existed because of Favors and his questionable ability to switch downward. Now it exists in Conley's questionable ability to switch upward. It will be interesting to see if you're right.
 
idiot said:
I think the previous limit on switching 1-4 existed because of Favors and his questionable ability to switch downward. Now it exists in Conley's questionable ability to switch upward. It will be interesting to see if you're right.
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yeah, conley capacity to switch up may input some limitations on that (mitchell not having height for getting on sf/pfs, or we not really want ingles guarding 4s may impact too), but i see we trying it more as we go on our 4 spot being some type of by committee with o'neale, jeff green, bogdanovic and co.

On the moments we have Ed Davis as our backup 5, as we relied a lot over directing drives to the hands of the rim protector to base our d, but that's not really his style of play, i imagine we trying some other ideia for defending on these moments - what could be good in terms of flexibility, like, we didn't have these options there before, right ? even it costing on some things, being able to throw different defensive approaches on teams that have exploited some aspects of our d should be good

Also we're getting more shooting around whoever is the pg behind conley (hopefully exum gets his injury free year, and that would means a lot in terms of switchability through jazz lineups), so there's more room to the Exum/Mitchell as offense initiators with tons of space, so there can happen even some taller lineups like mitchell/exum - ingles - bogdanovic - green/o'neale - gobert/davis. If Exum gets injury free there are the lineups of him and Mitchell too.
 
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What Changes:
Almost everything. We have a new roster with a lot of talent and I think we're a contender this year.

What stays the same:
A few fans will still create a post giving love to Gordon Hayward for everything he hasn't done for us for the last half decade. And there will still be posts for what might have become of Bolomboy.
Fanz will focus on things that don't matter and immediately start hating the person that adds the most value to our team.
Fanz will post a stupid thread about trading an A+ star to the Utah Jazz and carry on about it for 3 weeks, when there is no way on God's green earth that it will ever happen.
Fanz will also search for the new King of Utah, which will be a player that it is white. Ingles will start the season in the league, but will soon be replaced by Bogdanovich after he outscores Ingles by 1 point. There will also be a turn in the tides in which fanz will post to crucify Ingles for not hitting a difficult contested jumper. Bogdanovich will be the new "God" and we talk about him for 10 years after his final game in a Jazz uniform.
Mitchell will make a 3 and fanz will compare him with Michael Jordan. He will then miss a 3 and fanz will compare him with Luther Wright.

In a nut shell, our team will change a lot, but one thing that won't change is the fact that common sense isn't as common as you would think it is.
 
Guis,

We’d be so much better with Hayward. Do you think Ainge would give him back? We could also sign Bolomboy. We should have let Gobert go instead of Favors. Dat picknroll doe. Do you think we could trade Gobert and maybe land Porzingis?

Anyone think we should make a play for Mason Plumlee? I think with his run with Team USA, he’s due for a huge jump. He could end up being the perfect combo of a Mark Eaton and Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Has anyone started the Bogdanovic is God thread yet?

Mitchell sux.
 
What stays the same is the all in team mentality and the trajectory of Mitchell to superstar status.

What changes is we win the chip this season.
 
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