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NUMBERICA said:
Besides that he’s bigger

He doesn’t look like an NBA player and the Jazz have went out of their way to not have to ever rely on him. It’s entirely on purpose that we don’t see him play NBA minutes. That’s plenty of evidence.

Furthermore, he looks and plays like a dinosaur in a league and on a team that doesn’t lack them.
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He moves well enough for a 5. I don’t think there’s any evidence to question this. He has good hands, good touch, and a good motor.

After he was drafted, Udoh became available (not the other way around). At Udoh’s price, and with all the intangible value (locker room, etc.), you don’t pass on him when you know Bradley is a project that will take most if not all the duration of Epke’s contract.

It is in this way that we’ve seen so little of Bradley.

I predict good potential chemistry between Ingles and Bradley in the PnR. Another weapon for the bench.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Besides that he’s bigger

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Yep exactly.
Centers are typically the biggest player on the court. Size is a good characteristic for a center. Bradley is bigger than Booker. That was kind of my point of why I said Booker at the 4, sure. Booker at the 5? Give me Bradley

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fishonjazz said:
Yep exactly.
Centers are typically the biggest player on the court. Size is a good characteristic for a center. Bradley is bigger than Booker. That was kind of my point of why I said Booker at the 4, sure. Booker at the 5? Give me Bradley

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I’ll be sure to let Ben Wallace and Draymond Green know that it’s that simple.
 
Trevor Booker & Joe Ingles would be a killer locker room chemistry formula. But what the Jazz need is not this this time. They need to settle the new lineup, read and communicate with each other well, practice together amap. Quin needs to revamp his system of p&r’s. Add more pace and space.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I’ll be sure to let Ben Wallace and Draymond Green know that it’s that simple.
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I will be sure to let everyone know that Trevor Booker right now is equal to Draymond and Ben Wallace in their prime.

Neither are good options. I just choose Bradley for a center over Booker due to Bradley's size.
Now I'm not saying every taller player is better than every shorter player at center, and I don't think you actually think that's what I'm saying, so no need to act like that's what I'm saying.
No need to try to prove me wrong. We just disagree.

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I like Booker, not on this team. He isnt going to fit a need the Jazz have. The player we need is another Favors sized player to play as a 2nd or 3rd string PF. Seems like Bradley fits that mold

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Joncolton said:
I think Kevin Love would be the best fit, but his contract is not possible for us to trade for. I'm worried he will end up on the Blazers, and cause further insane competition in the Western Conference.

Booker would be a great locker-room fit, and he'd bring energy and leadership, but as others have mentioned his game doesn't necessarily bring anything to the floor that we necessarily need.

Joe Johnson just signed with the Pistons, and there are some intriguing names out there still.

Joakim Noah
Kenneth Faried
Thabo Sefolosha
Jamal Crawford
Dante Cunningham
Luc Mbah a Moute
Marcin Gortat

I have to imagine at this point the Jazz are running numbers on all these guys and talking to 2 or 3 of their agents. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. I can't rule out Tony Bradley having a better season than any of us expect though - that certainly was the case with Georges Niang. I didn't think he'd be half of the player that Jerebko was - I was surprised, but Dennis Lindsey saw it before anyone else.
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Right now the Jazz have no room to bring anyone else to camp unless they let someone go.
 
NAOS said:
I really despise the Bradley-hate. Wtf is your evidence? Lack of evidence isn’t evidence, btw.

Booker is cool. But finding him and Ed Davis minutes would be a question not worth asking (and they shouldn’t be on the floor at the same time).
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I just don't see it with him. We don't have NBA evidence (which would be damning if we didn't have Rudy/Favs last few years) but his G League numbers are just okay. If he was a good rim protector I could get on board... if he was a good shooter I could get on board... Outside of dropping some baby weight he hasn't seemed to make progress... the mid 40% FT shooting last year is troubling.

To me it just doesn't make sense to develop him because there are guys available at that position that represent his best case scenario (in my opinion)… they are ready now and cheap.

I strongly believe that if Rudy got hurt we'd bring someone in that would likely play ahead of him. I think the thought with him was he was going to develop as a shooter or be a homeless man's version of like Pau Gasol or something.

It doesn't have to be Booker, but I just can't see a great case for us investing a roster spot with him this year. If we do keep him, which is very likely, then I bet they pick up his option for next year at 3.5M... I just think we could find much better players that are available for the minimum. We don't have cap space next year so it isn't a big deal.
 
NAOS said:
He moves well enough for a 5. I don’t think there’s any evidence to question this. He has good hands, good touch, and a good motor.

After he was drafted, Udoh became available (not the other way around). At Udoh’s price, and with all the intangible value (locker room, etc.), you don’t pass on him when you know Bradley is a project that will take most if not all the duration of Epke’s contract.

It is in this way that we’ve seen so little of Bradley.

I predict good potential chemistry between Ingles and Bradley in the PnR. Another weapon for the bench.
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Bradley won't play unless there is an injury to Rudy or Davis. I think Bradley moves well for his size (because dude is thick and big) but I'd say he's average as far as movement overall. I think the comp for him is Kosta Koufos… and that guy couldn't get an NBA gig this summer. Maybe he becomes something more like a bigger Cody Zeller?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Bradley won't play unless there is an injury to Rudy or Davis. I think Bradley moves well for his size (because dude is thick and big) but I'd say he's average as far as movement overall. I think the comp for him is Kosta Koufos… and that guy couldn't get an NBA gig this summer. Maybe he becomes something more like a bigger Cody Zeller?
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A bigger Cody Zeller would be a massive win for the Jazz. He's probably the number one reason Kemba was a much better P&R player with the Hornets than with Team USA. I don't think Bradley has that in him (though I don't think he needs to end up there to be a decently productive player).
 
Good gawd, why this fascination with scrubs? It's like wistfully thinking about that beautiful girl you liked in HS, then going to your 10 yr reunion to see she has ballooned to 200 lbs.

Trevor Booker shot 24% on his 3's last year. Seriously, we think this is a player who could ever step in and help? He was a terrible shooter when he played for Utah and is even worse now. He was a great personality. We liked him for his toughness, his highlight volleyball shot and his comments about Kanter. But he was a scrub and still is. He averaged 20 mins/per and 5 rbds. That's ok, but not great. And certainly doesn't make up for his lack of shooting. Maybe he's good enough to play off the bench for the Stars.
 
Jack Strop said:
Good gawd, why this fascination with scrubs? It's like wistfully thinking about that beautiful girl you liked in HS, then going to your 10 yr reunion to see she has ballooned to 200 lbs.

Trevor Booker shot 24% on his 3's last year. Seriously, we think this is a player who could ever step in and help? He was a terrible shooter when he played for Utah and is even worse now. He was a great personality. We liked him for his toughness, his highlight volleyball shot and his comments about Kanter. But he was a scrub and still is. He averaged 20 mins/per and 5 rbds. That's ok, but not great. And certainly doesn't make up for his lack of shooting. Maybe he's good enough to play off the bench for the Stars.
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The entire point is he probably wouldn’t play, BUT IF HE DID, he knows how to play in the NBA AND has value off the court.

Believe it or not, those kinds of things matter too. Not all players have value as the 11th or 12th person.
 
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Jingled said:
Basketball Reference sorts lineups by height so since he's taller than Crowder he was listed as a power forward in all the minutes they played together.
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Then why does 6-10 Ben Simmons play 80% of his time at PG?
 
NAOS said:
Wut? I’ll call BS on that. Heavy BS.
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In the era of point forwards and positionless basketball with one in and four out, I don't know what makes someone a 4 and someone else a 3, and why does it matter

What makes Ingles the 3 and Crowder the 4? What is the criteria for being a 4?

And if Ingles and Bogdonovich are on the floor together, who is the 3 and who is the 4?

More broadly, who cares?
 
Jingled said:
Basketball Reference sorts lineups by height so since he's taller than Crowder he was listed as a power forward in all the minutes they played together.
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Well that's dumb

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silesian said:
In the era of point forwards and positionless basketball with one in and four out, I don't know what makes someone a 4 and someone else a 3, and why does it matter

What makes Ingles the 3 and Crowder the 4? What is the criteria for being a 4?

And if Ingles and Bogdonovich are on the floor together, who is the 3 and who is the 4?

More broadly, who cares?
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I mean, I get what you’re saying, but you still need enough bruisers and rebounders out there. Ingles doesn’t eat enough glass.
 
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