Surprised nothing has been posted yet.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html
Saudi Oil Production Attacked.
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Zombie
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Cool to see our use of force dictated by the Saudi royal family. Very normal way to conduct foreign policy.
Agreed. I was honestly happy when I first saw the report that Saudi oil production was hit. Saudi is a nation that takes and takes and takes from the U.S. and what they give us is 9/11. That's what we get for supporting them.
Saudi Arabia is NOT our friend. I don't want friends like that. Saudi Arabia is far worse than Iran, far far worse.
The Thriller
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As a reward for chopping up one of our journalists, we pledge our armed forces for them to use. I agree, they’re not our friend. We bash Iran for its extremism but seem to ignore SA’s because we do so much business with them. I wish our media would focus a bit more on how extreme some of these countries, like Saudi Arabia are.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few days. Trump talks big but has avoided the use of the military. However, this time, it feels different. I don’t know if it’s because of their oil production taking a hit, Iran being the accused perpetrator, or because Trump/Kushner personally might have so much vested interest over there. But this time it feels different.
One thing that’s for sure, I’m glad Bolton isn’t around anymore.
The Thriller
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Very cool and very legal?
Remember, Saudi Arabia buys billions of military hardware from us. One journalist wasn’t worth jeopardizing the relationship between our dear friend, Saudi Arabia. Besides, if they didn’t buy it from us, they’d buy it from China or Russia. Right? Watch the video from the Post.
If it was indeed Iran, it’s hard to believe they did this without Russian permission and material. Right? Sooooooooo placating to Russia isn’t exactly improving things.
Kissing up to Saudi Arabia didn’t begin with trump. It’s been going on for a long time by presidents from both parties. But it sure seems like they’ve become pretty brazen under trump.
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Archie Moses
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I've never heard that song before. It's badass. Love the guitar.
Red
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That's what I thought. But the war in Yemen is in part a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. I still suspect that Michael Klare got it right here, though I would not wish this on the world:
https://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176422/tomgram:_michael_klare,_the_road_to_hell_in_the_middle_east/
And I thought of Klare's essay again when Trump just suggested a mutual defense treaty between Israel and the US, suggested in an effort to boost Netanyahu's reelection prospects this week.
It’s not necessarily either or here.
Good post. As far as I know the Houthi’s are supported by Iran and company.
Zombie
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You are correct. This seems to me a prime example of the kind of conflict the US has no business getting mixed up in. There have been atrocities on both sides, supported by two opposing but equally abhorrent regimes.
I don’t want to get involved in it either. The great Sunni/Shia war does not need American involvement.
Archie Moses
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So, are you saying the US's intel in false?
One Brow
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I don't believe we know what US intelligence analysts are saying here, only what Pompeo is saying.
However, Pompeo's claims do contradict the claims of the people taking credit for the attack. While it's true these people are being backed by Iran, they are not Iran.
Burn it all
So, in other news.....
I heard Condolezza Rice saying she supports Trump on Afghanistan negotions, saying he's doing the right thing there.
I heard George Soros defending Trump on the China Trade negotiations, saying we all need to stand with him on bringing China to account.
I heard Mark Levin literally curse Lyndon LaRouche. Now this point might need some background. I have met Lyndon LaRouche, first in around 1970, and followed his little band of socialist gadflies, who have recently been well-received in China and Russia with their grand infrastructure proposals, which the Chinese are calling "The Belt and Road Initiate", which will create a China-centered world trade system, a land route for trade on magLev fast trains uniting the Eurasian economies. LaRouche is anti-Brit, to say the least. I mean The City of London is the heart of the evil beast in LaRouche world politics. The Queen of England, or some say, the British have started two world wars to prevent land based economic cooperation across Europe already. Until now, the LaRouchies have touted Trump as the last best hope to do the Queen in for good. I mean, he's sooooooo much the outsider in the AmBrit world. Mark Levin is nothing if he's not a defender of Israel and the AmBrit Empire. He's just not a stupid man. Which I mean to say, is not a deep left socialist. He calls commies "commies".
But what do I know about international intrigue?? The Chinese and the Russians loved Hillary and paid their dues to her, and she was a Rockefeller asset.
And, finally, the Saudi's officially disowned Osama bin Laden's son, and Trump's seals took him out a few months ago, and the terrorist Pakistani allies of the Taliban are now going to be our only targets in Afghanistan while we hope the Taliban and the Afghan puppet government unite in the gripping fear of isolation with no recourse but submit to the Chinese, who are already torturingt and esecuting religious minority muslims in China....
I'd need to chech out my Iranian contacts round town to get better information, probably, but war with Iran is not going to be helpful. The Chinese and Russians are helping the dysfunctional Iranian hierarchy just like they help out in Venezuela.
I did a post a week or so ago about Trump getting the Rockefeller nod, and the reason being China.
I have for decades been seeing the next great war as the Middle East, a sort of demolition of Islam while smiling and feigning partiality for the swarthy swordsmen of the sands. Zbigniiew Brezinski used to expansively long for some chance to ring that bell. This might be it.
I'm standing with Rand Paul on this one.
The Thriller
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You’d think that staying out of war would be something that both trumpers and Democrats could agree on. There’s a lot of isolationists on both sides of the political aisle who don’t see American intervention in that region as being a positive thing. Guess we’ll see.
