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Insights and what we can take away from the preseason ..

This jazz team is going to score at will. Bogie will remember it’s a basketball and not a giant orange in his hands then the team will get used to each other and start passing better. Mudiay loves to pass can pass does pass and is not afraid to take it to the rim. The season revolves around gobert getumRudy.
 
ghsartin said:
I'm puzzled by your statement, that Mitchell is "ready to take another step ON BOTH sides of the court." On the offensive side, yes. He looked more in control than ever. On the defensive side, though, he doesn't seem to be putting much effort. At least I did not see it. It is preseason, of course, and taking it easy is to be expected. Nevertheless, what makes you think that Mitchell will be much better defensively? I did not see any sign of it and I'm honestly curious.
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His defense on team USA was killer good. No one is motivated to give 100% in preseason.

Every time he says practice substitute it for preseason.

 
Probably i'm wrong but it seems that this season the team's game will change. More talented offense and (i think) less defense. I think that the key to get playoffs last 3 years was defense. The fact is that the league is full of wild teams,that make a lot of threes and i ask myself if the jazz offense will be enough to win them. The team needs to defend like the last years and attack better,if not we are at the same point. I hope Quinn will get this defense-offense balance. Good luck
 
Jingled said:
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It's so nice to back a player since the Jazz drafted him and see him start to make it. Especially when I was ridiculed on this board for backing him. I've had a pretty good track record on seeing and evaluating talent. I was one of the first on this board to say that Exum was broken.

Let's just face it guys, I know a lot about basketball.

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Catchall said:
** The Jazz were probably trying some complicated plays that Bogdanovic wasn't grasping. They may have to simplify things for him for a while until he catches on.
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I'm reminded of what happened in the playoffs against Houston. Quin was implementing that "Milwaukee defense" on Harden, which was a disaster in game 1. But by game 3, the players finally figured out how to run it, and it worked. I think Bogdanovic is in a similar learning curve funk, but he is trying hard, so he will catch on soon.
 
framer said:
I'm old enough to remember people here wanting to salary dump him this off-season. Glad the posters on JazzFanz don't actually run the front office.
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Doing a victory lap cuz the picked up an option? This the same front office that gave Ex the bag cuz they drafted him. He’s still done nothing in a game that matters. Picking up the option is a low risk move and if you didn’t dump him this offseason it makes no sense to decline his option. If he plays well you can only offer him amount you declined.
 
Ellipse said:
I'm reminded of what happened in the playoffs against Houston. Quin was implementing that "Milwaukee defense" on Harden, which was a disaster in game 1. But by game 3, the players finally figured out how to run it, and it worked. I think Bogdanovic is in a similar learning curve funk, but he is trying hard, so he will catch on soon.
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There were moments when he was literally standing around in the middle of the offense, looking like a school kid who didn't know which classroom to go to. So he just floated around the perimeter.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Doing a victory lap cuz the picked up an option? This the same front office that gave Ex the bag cuz they drafted him. He’s still done nothing in a game that matters. Picking up the option is a low risk move and if you didn’t dump him this offseason it makes no sense to decline his option. If he plays well you can only offer him amount you declined.
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No, what he is saying is that a lot of people here on the board are short-sighted morons.

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Catchall said:
There were moments when he was literally standing around in the middle of the offense, looking like a school kid who didn't know which classroom to go to. So he just floated around the perimeter.
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He also just needs to shoot the open shots. He was hesitant and already open... then over dribbled and passed out to someone. I would just tell him to shot hunt. It simplifies things. We have plenty of passers imo... be aggressive.
 
Kyoto said:
It's so nice to back a player since the Jazz drafted him and see him start to make it. Especially when I was ridiculed on this board for backing him. I've had a pretty good track record on seeing and evaluating talent. I was one of the first on this board to say that Exum was broken.

Let's just face it guys, I know a lot about basketball.

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LMAO. Might wanna wait for him to actually get minutes in an NBA game before you start spouting about your draft acumen.
 
jumpin bean said:
This jazz team is going to score at will. Bogie will remember it’s a basketball and not a giant orange in his hands then the team will get used to each other and start passing better. Mudiay loves to pass can pass does pass and is not afraid to take it to the rim. The season revolves around gobert getumRudy.
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And since Rudy REALLY wants to be an All-Star, he is 100% vested in a hot start to the season.

All will be well.
 
Kyoto said:
It's so nice to back a player since the Jazz drafted him and see him start to make it. Especially when I was ridiculed on this board for backing him. I've had a pretty good track record on seeing and evaluating talent. I was one of the first on this board to say that Exum was broken.

Let's just face it guys, I know a lot about basketball.

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I want the kid to succeed. But how many non-shooting, non-rim protecting, below the rim bigs are in the NBA?

He has some skills, I hope I'm wrong.
 
Though experiment:

How many Chris Pauls can you insert into the lineup before the overall defense suffers and why?

If you have three Chris Pauls, then you would need two elite defensive players at the remaining two positions.
If you have two Chris Pauls, then you would need one elite defensive player, one above average defensive (compared to the top 20% of the league), and one average player.

The Jazz are a team with two "Chris Pauls", an elite defensive player in Rudy, and then other two spots we are average (compared to the top 20% of the league because that is who we are fighting for the championship). The Jazz need to upgrade one more spot defensively or we are going to be average defensively. Defense is a team construction/unity concept and the Jazz are at a disadvantage.
 
silesian said:
I want the kid to succeed. But how many non-shooting, non-rim protecting, below the rim bigs are in the NBA?

He has some skills, I hope I'm wrong.
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He's still the youngest player on the team, right? He seems to be teachable and works hard. It is stupid to think he is a finished product.
 
whatthe said:
Though experiment:

How many Chris Pauls can you insert into the lineup before the overall defense suffers and why?

If you have three Chris Pauls, then you would need two elite defensive players at the remaining two positions.
If you have two Chris Pauls, then you would need one elite defensive player, one above average defensive (compared to the top 20% of the league), and one average player.

The Jazz are a team with two "Chris Pauls", an elite defensive player in Rudy, and then other two spots we are average (compared to the top 20% of the league because that is who we are fighting for the championship). The Jazz need to upgrade one more spot defensively or we are going to be average defensively. Defense is a team construction/unity concept and the Jazz are at a disadvantage.
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Chris Paul is a great defender... even at his advanced age. Has height limitations but he’ll guard everyone from Steph to Gordon Hayward. He gets away with Murder though.

DM and Conley are not as good as he is on that end. DM could get there and be a little less limited maybe... but I’m not sure that’s the comp we are looking for. Conley is slight so he can’t switch on to post guys and hold his ground like Chris. Chris also has amazing hands and is just a mother effer on defense.

Our defense should be good. Some are panicked based on what 4 preseason games... one Rudy didn’t play, one against a team that gives us fits because of their shot makers, and another team that plays extremely fast and gave us issues. I have some mild concern... Rudy has not fully locked in and he shouldn’t... don’t want that guy wearing himself out.

OKC is a good first test... guys that have given us issues in the past in CP and Adams, but we should be fairly effective against them. Not a cupcake or a surefire playoff team... though if you told me CP and Gallo play 70 games each I might predict them to be in the playoffs. They might be the most underrated team in the league. Depends on how plugged in they are too.
 
whatthe said:
Though experiment:

How many Chris Pauls can you insert into the lineup before the overall defense suffers and why?

If you have three Chris Pauls, then you would need two elite defensive players at the remaining two positions.
If you have two Chris Pauls, then you would need one elite defensive player, one above average defensive (compared to the top 20% of the league), and one average player.

The Jazz are a team with two "Chris Pauls", an elite defensive player in Rudy, and then other two spots we are average (compared to the top 20% of the league because that is who we are fighting for the championship). The Jazz need to upgrade one more spot defensively or we are going to be average defensively. Defense is a team construction/unity concept and the Jazz are at a disadvantage.
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You picking Chris Paul as your crappy defender standard is all we need to know about this 'thought experiment'.
 
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