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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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The Thriller
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/15/john-solomon-leaves-behind-lasting-damage-hill/
@sirkickyass not sure if you’d seen this or not...
simple is as simple does, Forrest
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If trump were to confess and check himself into jail it will be because all the meanies wouldn’t stop bullying him and his confession was false. Or the libtards drugged his Diet Coke and hypnotized him to believe that he had committed a crime while truly innocent.
You bet it is always someone else’s fault. The Dear Leader is immaculate.
there was a day when Democrats were the party of persecution complex. Trump says “hold my beer”.
The Thriller
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This certainly aged well...
Stone faces 50 years in prison. Quite the “NothingBurger.”
Red
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Not only that, but the prosecutors stated his lies were to prevent Trump from looking bad! So, not just any old lies. If this guy had been willing to sing, and if Mueller had not settled for written replies from Trump(admittedly, the Mueller investigation would likely still be ongoing if Mueller had fought for live testimony from Trump), the impact from the report might have been much harder for Barr to sanitize as he eventually did.
Red
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One of the problems I have with Bill Barr's embrace of "unitary Executive theory" is I don't think he'll be happy until presidents are safely outside and above the rule of law. I also take issue with interpreting the AG as the president's lawyer. I thought his oath was to the Constitution?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/barr-democrats-court-speech/index.html
"Barr first entered the Justice Department under President George H.W. Bush. As the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, he worked closely with the White House and produced a 10-page memo outlining a broad vision of the executive branch's power to rebuff Congress' oversight attempts.
He was selected for the role, he has said, because of his views on strong executive authority, and in his 1989 confirmation hearing for the office, he made clear that he believed the Justice Department owed loyalty to the administration.
"He is the president's lawyer," Barr said of the attorney general. "He is the lawyer for the Cabinet."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/barr-democrats-court-speech/index.html
"Barr first entered the Justice Department under President George H.W. Bush. As the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, he worked closely with the White House and produced a 10-page memo outlining a broad vision of the executive branch's power to rebuff Congress' oversight attempts.
He was selected for the role, he has said, because of his views on strong executive authority, and in his 1989 confirmation hearing for the office, he made clear that he believed the Justice Department owed loyalty to the administration.
"He is the president's lawyer," Barr said of the attorney general. "He is the lawyer for the Cabinet."
Joe Bagadonuts
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You don't have to look very hard to find people saying this. It's been a nearly constant mantra since the day Trump took office. The fact that you claim to have never said it is pretty irrelevant.
The Thriller
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Sounds like trump made an emergency hospital trip tonight. Wonder if the stress and pressure is getting to him? His closest buddies are either in prison or shortly will be, impeachment keeps coming in wave after wave, and his presidency is going up in flames. With his weight, diet, and twitter routine, I’m surprised he’s lasted this long without an incident.
The video below shows you yet another reason why “both sides” aren’t the same. MSNBC isn’t close to fox propaganda. Great Leader is... vigorous? Gag
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The Thriller
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Bill Barr is one weird dude With anti-Democratic authoritarian beliefs. Dude would feel more at home in Russia or Turkey. Last night he gave a speech to the Federalist Society. Weird ****. Complete and total projection if I’ve ever seen one
The Thriller
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Lol
GOP lost again tonight. Democratic governor Edwards wins re-election in uber red state Louisiana. Trump can’t even win in those “liberal” bastions of Kentucky and Louisiana. Repubs, you sure you want 4 more years of this “winning?”
can we get Donald to campaign for mike Lee or Moscow Mitch? I really want them to lose.
GOP lost again tonight. Democratic governor Edwards wins re-election in uber red state Louisiana. Trump can’t even win in those “liberal” bastions of Kentucky and Louisiana. Repubs, you sure you want 4 more years of this “winning?”
can we get Donald to campaign for mike Lee or Moscow Mitch? I really want them to lose.
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Someone help me out here. Edwards was elected in 2015 with 56.1% to 43.9%. Trump wins Louisiana in 2016 by 20%. Incumbent goes for reelection and wins 51.3% to 48.7%.
Help my biased mind to know what I’m supposed to be seeing.
You are seeing a state election that has 99% to do with local state politics.
The Thriller
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Louisiana is a red state, so let’s clear that up first.
Edwards won in 2015 after Bobby Jindal left it in ruins and disgraced ex-senator David Vitter won the republican primary. So Edwards winning in 2015 wasn’t a surprise, it was expected. For those of who who don’t remember David Vitter, google him (but don’t do it at work). So I wouldn’t focus too much on 2015 as 2019 is a better indicator of where things are truly at.
During Edward's governorship, he’s done things that are typically attacked by the right. Things such as raised taxes, increased public education spending, and balanced the budget.
Trump campaigned for the republican too, who’s a much more electable candidate than David Vitter. He visited the state 3 times in 5 weeks. He begged, “like a dog”, for Louisiana to give him a win.
So this time the election truly was a mandate on Democratic governing. Did the people want to continue with this same tax raisin, public education spendin liberal?
Apparently yes!
So here’s why people are talking about it:
1. A red state votes blue once again.
2. Once again traditionally red suburbs voted overwhelmingly blue. Clearly, the college educated and women voters have become alienated by the GOP’s Trumpism. This combined with African Americans is making a formidable coalition for democrats. Maybe repubs shouldn’t have spent the past 3 years alienating these constituencies?
3. Once again Trump puts his own political capital on the line for a Republican candidate for Governor and loses.
4. It shows that Trump isn’t the magician he thinks he is. It shows that local politicians should look out for themselves and not try to nationalize politics with the hopes that Trump’s pixie dust will work in them. If anything, smearing yourself in Trump’s sludge makes you less likely to win.
Edit: it also seems to suggest that if voting to impeach or convict is the right thing to do, do it without hesitation. Trump isn’t superman. Republicans, stop debasing yourselves for the titanic
That’s why.
this article explains things pretty well too:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/poli...iana-governor-republicans-election/index.html
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The Thriller
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This seems important. If Paul Ryan and the Murdock kids want to change course and build a new Republican Party, it’s got to begin at Fox News.
He won by 12.2% in 2015. He won by 2.6% now. The Jindal and Vitter issues explain all the variance? An 80% reduction in victory margin is a stain on Trump? This sounds like the kind of nuance Locke pumped all day circa 2013 to argue that Corbin was a good coach. It reads more like all of franklin’s pro-Corbin spin that was partial parody. It’s like when someone’s been assigned an argument in debate class, so they’re defending it just because that’s what you do.
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The Thriller
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serious question, do you know who david Vitter is? If not, did you google him?
He’s a guy who’s won elections since those issues.
Serious question, do you think going from 12.2% victory to 2.6% is explained by Vitter? If so, how much?
The Thriller
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yes.
what's the alt narrative? Louisiana was bluer in 2015 than in 2019 and that Trump helped to close the gap for what should have been a double digit victory for the Democrat?
btw Rispone the Republican was up in the polls +5 pts prior to Trump’s last two visits.
