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SoUjazzfan said:
Anyone trying to pin all our troubles on Conley hasn't been paying attention. This whole team has no pride and lacks the desire to Play to a level to succeed.
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For a team that had a legit shot at second seed just a short time ago this is nuts.

Something has to be horribly wrong in the Utah Jazz locker room. Did someone ****s another player's wife? I mean seriously, games can get away from you on any given night, but this team looks like they don't want the other players on their own team to succeed.

This season has had massive highs and massive lows. I think right now the Jazz have to be at a season low. Either they respond or fold. I have no confidence in either outcome.
 
Catchall said:
Does anyone think that now Rudy and Donovan achieved their personal goals of becoming All Stars, they don't care as much?
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I wonder that more so about Rudy than I do Donovan. Donovan is at least playing the same he was before the all star game. Rudy on the other hand seems to be playing soft. No intensity. Almost like he’s missing that chip on his shoulder.
 
LoPo said:
Clarkson is playing harder than Donovan? Lol. What? Dude, Donovan is busting *** and has been all game. Our team just sucks at team defense.

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The Jazz had 8 steals. Clarkson had 2 of them and his deflections caused several others. So yes, Jordan Clarkson.

And again, you're right Mitchell busted his a**. But it was just to score. His defense was abysmal and he showed no effort on that end.

Effort level on defense is our problem rn. Not enough guys give a ****. We're just trying to outscore the other team.
 
Release the Kraken said:
That's right, keep telling yourself that. You're loving every second of it, probably even had this game circled on your calendar.:rolleyes:
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I take no joy in watching Conley play like he is right now. Tonight he had only 1 assist, 3 turnovers, 8 points with zero 3pt shots, and 3 fouls trying to guard Rubio. He didn't run the offense, he didn't have much gravity making guys guard him, and he had no defensive presence whatsoever. Guys did whatever they wanted against him.
 
SCS said:
The Jazz had 8 steals. Clarkson had 2 of them and his deflections caused several others. So yes, Jordan Clarkson.

And again, you're right Mitchell busted his a**. But it was just to score. His defense was abysmal and he showed no effort on that end.

Effort level on defense is our problem rn. Not enough guys give a ****. We're just trying to outscore the other team.
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Donovan needs to put this team on his shoulders. Needs to tell them all to wake up to do it though, and he wants to be liked instead.
 
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Every Jazz player was - in the box score. Tonight the Jazz had two blocked shots with one by Rudy and one by Bradley. Exum had two blocks by himself tonight in a Cavs win. That is how bad we are playing.
 
zyzz said:
Everyone would be ******** on Ricky if he kept him anyway. 3 yrs 51 mil no thanks. At least Conley has a shot to be good. We know what Ricky is. He's gonna shoot like 39/33/88 and play like a superstar once every 5 games.
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Wish Conley could play like just a decent player once every 5 games.
 
Something has to change. Now.

We need to cut someone and replace them with someone else. We need to change the lineups/rotations. We need to bench guys and play Morgan/Brantley/Tucker.

Idk which exactly. But something needs to change immediately. What we're doing now isn't going to lead to different results. These guys don't care. They need to get shook.
 
sahlensguy said:
Donovan needs to put this team on his shoulders. Needs to tell them all to wake up to do it though, and he wants to be liked instead.
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But it’s not on Mitchell. This team just really isn’t very good. We have a lot of 3 point chuckers. But we don’t have enough guys who want to do the other aspects of the game.
 
The future of this team, if it can be achieved, is Mitchell at the 1, Rudy at the 5, and an athletic/dynamic/two-way wing in between them. Bogey is a floor-spacer at the 4 and not much more. Jingles and Royce are basically just rotation players and glue guys.

Jazz are one impact player away from being serious, and that player isn't Mike Conley.
 
SCS said:
Something has to change. Now.

We need to cut someone and replace them with someone else. We need to change the lineups/rotations. We need to bench guys and play Morgan/Brantley/Tucker.

Idk which exactly. But something needs to change immediately. What we're doing now isn't going to lead to different results. These guys don't care. They need to get shook.
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None of that will happen. How does cutting someone improve this team anyway?
 
SCS said:
The Jazz had 8 steals. Clarkson had 2 of them and his deflections caused several others. So yes, Jordan Clarkson.

And again, you're right Mitchell busted his a**. But it was just to score. His defense was abysmal and he showed no effort on that end.

Effort level on defense is our problem rn. Not enough guys give a ****. We're just trying to outscore the other team.
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Yeah having a grumpy face and scoring when your team already lost the game isn't what I would call competing. Mitchell is doing what Booker was laughed at for.

There are way too many guys who think the solution to our issues is by them scoring more. Even Rudy demanding the ball. That's how they all believe they will help the team win, by scoring.

And yet, every single post game interview they acknowledge that the issue is that they didn't compete on defense. Quin says this, every player says. When will the players take initiative and put the onus on themselves to compete on defense? It hasn't happened yet. When they say "we" need to play harder on defense, they're really thinking the other guys need to play defense.
 
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