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Is Ruby 'really' worth a max?

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Someone posted a tweet of the stats when Rudy is on the court vs not on the court against the Rockets are the numbers are concerning. We actually win against the rockets with him OFF the court. That's only 1 team but what if every other team was to play small? Or with MOST bugs shooting 3s now, will Rudy last a max contracts timeline as a traditional center?
 
With so many big's being able to shoot outside to pull Rudy away from the rim and Rudy limited offensively I don't think he's worth the max. It limits you too much for what he gives you. Surrounded with the right guys I think he's a star, just not a max star. Right now I think he's frustrated with his teammates and their lack of effort so he's coasting a bit. If he can get his edge back it would certainly help. I would really like to see him get pissed when someone totally blows an assignment on D and just go off on them. Set a tone that defense matters to him.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
With so many big's being able to shoot outside to pull Rudy away from the rim and Rudy limited offensively I don't think he's worth the max. It limits you too much for what he gives you. Surrounded with the right guys I think he's a star, just not a max star. Right now I think he's frustrated with his teammates and their lack of effort so he's coasting a bit. If he can get his edge back it would certainly help. I would really like to see him get pissed when someone totally blows an assignment on D and just go off on them. Set a tone that defense matters to him.
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His teammates are just not that great defensively. Effort can go only so far. The talent just isn't there. So Rudy can call them out once in a while which can help occasionally, but in the long run we don't have the horses to stop good offenses.
 
I don't think so, even though he is the best defensively, he is really bad further than one ft from the basket.
 
Super max? No.

Hes not giannis. He is very good on the defensive end, but his inability to punish teams inside isnt going to net him
A supermax.
 
There's a zero percent the Jazz get something better than they have Rudy if they replace him.

Also, that on/off "analysis" is quite. Yeah we might be the Rockets if Rudy is off the floor...if that also means Harden is off the floor. These are the Locke-esque type numbers that ruin the use of actual good analysis.
 
sahlensguy said:
He might be worth building around if they would build around him. They've surrounded him with defensive sieves though, so no he's not worth building around like that. They've cooked the Golden goose.
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Players who are both elite offensively and defensively are stars. You aren’t getting a bunch of stars in SLC to put beside him. If he’s going to get the money he has to have the impact to warrant it. Stars win you titles.


KqWIN said:
There's a zero percent the Jazz get something better than they have Rudy if they replace him.

Also, that on/off "analysis" is quite. Yeah we might be the Rockets if Rudy is off the floor...if that also means Harden is off the floor. These are the Locke-esque type numbers that ruin the use of actual good analysis.
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Also zero chance you win a title if he’s getting paid $45-60 million a year.
 
Yes. Rudy has significantly improved every year. He is like a diesel motor. Steady, Powerful, reliable. Not flashy, but the guy pulling the load. I believe in Rudy above any other player on the team.
 
vegas said:
Yes. Rudy has significantly improved every year. He is like a diesel motor. Steady, Powerful, reliable. Not flashy, but the guy pulling the load. I believe in Rudy above any other player on the team.
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Above? Sure. But is he a giannis, lebron, davis type of player?

Thats what the summer max is designed for. Rudy gobert is looking at a super max while being a defensive anchor, sure, but idk if you pay him kawhi leonard, lebron, davis, or Giannis type of money.

Even for players like dame its a tough one, because dame is a beast, but how much money is he holding up in
The cap that could have added depth?
 
There’s absolutely no way we should pay Rudy the super max. I love the guy but he’s not worth it and will severely prohibit us.

Zion for Rudy!

It actually makes a lot of on court sense for the Pels but they would
never do it.
 
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