The Thriller
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I just turned on Rush and he’s attacking Xi for having ousted any opponents or critics from power. He’s lamenting leaders who get rid of critics. Irony is dead.
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I just turned on Rush and he’s attacking Xi for having ousted any opponents or critics from power. He’s lamenting leaders who get rid of critics. Irony is dead.
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Rush has more class, and maybe more intelligence, than is evident to the DumpTrumpster bunch of knuckleheads.
A caller raised the question of nepotism amongst Deep State professionals. It's a fair question, and goes to cronyism as a campaign issue, and influence peddling in general. Rush dissed it as "The Way We Are", whether in public or private organizations, concluding that "It's Who You Know as much as What you Know."
Considering the record of our high-level bureaucrats regarding schemes to make Trump look bad, and leaks to the media, almost any ordinary American who is not fully soused in the DumpTrump cool-aid, recognizes today that nobody can operate the Presidency without the support of our socialist/communist unelected and above-the-law cliques in Washington......
Xi doesn't even blush, and the State-run Chinese media, including their American holdings in the likes of Hollywood and our mainstream media know better than to criticize Xi.
Nothing "ironic", really. It's the way totalitarians like Xi do business.
Trump deserves the same latitude we gave Obama for picking Executive Branch leadership posts, and imo, he would do better to get some new people in there where ever he can. But Pelosi and the determined Statost Establishment have done everything imaginable to hog tie the Trump Presidency.
But Progressivism is dying the death, with or without Trump. Times are changing. We have a solid core of mature citizenry who've gone through the classrooms of schoolteachers like Thriller, high school and college as well, eating and drinking Progressive crap for generations, and it's such a load people all over the world are sick of it, and the rising rejection of it at every level is epidemic. This is not the real world, it's not the world we want, and it's not what will be our future.
Americans are increasingly rejecting authoritarian governance at every level. It's just gotten so bad people have seen the light. If we don't assert the right to take care of ourselves, whether we do or not, "the authorities" will not do it for us. They take care of their own, that's it. And we're just fools to let them near the levers of power in our government.
I was a bit slow to see the media sources for the Trumpdumpster allegations that "It's All Trump's Fault", and the sources for the complaint in the CYA Washington Bureaucracy, but the more people like Thriller and Colton glomb on it, the more sense it will make.
Politically, this will go against the know-nothing Obama holdovers heading the agencies, whom Pelosi has blocked Trump from replacing with competent, true professional people rather than Obama's political hacks, just like it did on the Ukrainian gambit.
This will also further reduce the cognitive-capable citizenry tolerance for the hack media. You folks know, I suppose, that Obama asserted control of the media by using his agency goons to threaten and intimidate the Press. AP in particular.
Here's the story, peeps. Read and Discuss. Or admit you're just little committed foot-soldiers for the Brave New World.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/a-p-scandal-raises-spectre-of-big-brother
The DumpTrumpster movement has Obama's thumbprints all over it, all his appointees in the FBI, CIA, FISA Court, and every other branch of government, still there with a howling spychotic band of delusional power-hungry would-be sycophants for King Barry.
I might be edging off the screen in a bit of irony myself...… lol.
OK, so after going over the subject a bit, as concerned as I can be over government incompetence under anyone, even Jesus for Hell's Sake, I'm ready to make a few notes.
The Australian vaccine for CoViD-19, indeed a close relative to SARS, is being developed with State-of-the-Art technology, and the program has been making extremely positive progress for over seven weeks now. They are already doing Safety evaluations and scale-up batches. It will be given to First-Responders dealing directly with CoViD-19 patients. In that context, Trump does not look quite so overconfident in saying "We've got it under control", although I still think that's a bad line to use. "We're making progress towards a vaccine" would be more justifiable. "We are hopeful we can slow it down and minimize this virus" might be fair enough.
The vaccine being developed is being designed from lab-made proteins derived from the CoViD-19 genome. This technique is similar to some I used in research over 40 years ago, working on monoclonal anti-bodies for various applications. If you challenge a target, and get a batch of antibodies, you can use those antibodies to find the antigen. Pure research. Now they use the genome, and just make all the possible antigens, and run tests to see which ones serve as good vaccine- producing material.
If you make a vaccine this way, you also eliminate a lot of the concern about causing harm to the patient who may have some closely-related structural protein that could become an auto-immune problem. So, you're way ahead on Safety to begin with..... and you can find an effective vaccine more efficiently.
I call this research very positive, and real progress.
I think it turns me more towards the possible malevolence of a Media run amok with fear-mongering and unfounded criticisms of what some political target has done. And, since Xi did the due diligence to get this research on it's way, this even looks good for him.
The Australian vaccine for CoViD-19, indeed a close relative to SARS, is being developed with State-of-the-Art technology, and the program has been making extremely positive progress for over seven weeks now. They are already doing Safety evaluations and scale-up batches. It will be given to First-Responders dealing directly with CoViD-19 patients. In that context, Trump does not look quite so overconfident in saying "We've got it under control", although I still think that's a bad line to use. "We're making progress towards a vaccine" would be more justifiable. "We are hopeful we can slow it down and minimize this virus" might be fair enough.
The vaccine being developed is being designed from lab-made proteins derived from the CoViD-19 genome. This technique is similar to some I used in research over 40 years ago, working on monoclonal anti-bodies for various applications. If you challenge a target, and get a batch of antibodies, you can use those antibodies to find the antigen. Pure research. Now they use the genome, and just make all the possible antigens, and run tests to see which ones serve as good vaccine- producing material.
If you make a vaccine this way, you also eliminate a lot of the concern about causing harm to the patient who may have some closely-related structural protein that could become an auto-immune problem. So, you're way ahead on Safety to begin with..... and you can find an effective vaccine more efficiently.
I call this research very positive, and real progress.
I think it turns me more towards the possible malevolence of a Media run amok with fear-mongering and unfounded criticisms of what some political target has done. And, since Xi did the due diligence to get this research on it's way, this even looks good for him.
This is a pretty good interview, imo.
Then there's this...
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020...-charge-coronavirus-outbreak-commits-suicide/
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020...-charge-coronavirus-outbreak-commits-suicide/
The Thriller
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Steve Bannon demanding that China reach out and depend on the world community to help them deal with Coronavirus. Irony is so dead.
Steve Bannon, demanding that any country reach out for help? Hilarious. What a globalist cuck. Shouldn't China just focus on itself? "China First!" Doesn't it seem like Bannon's demand for China to reach out sound a bit too Jewish I mean globalist for right wingers these days? After all, survival of the fittest, amiright?!
you sound a bit anti-Semitic. I mean, really. Most Jewish people are educated, professional, and on the liberal side mostly, I think because they are businessmen and professionals dealing with trade on a global scale and other highly educated, progressive sorts. Do a few bankers with influence really mean we have to get genocidal, I mean…. essentially that's what Hitler did, realizing that during WWI the bankers cut a deal with Britain and left the Kaiser in the lurch.'
Whatever, I shouldn't take you seriously when you're claiming you have humor.
Nobody wants China to stand for civilization and a new world order. They're as backward as the Han Dynasty ever was or ever could be. Just simple, reflexive automatons more or less, trying so hard to be compliant with the Emperor because he can have your head, or your balls, with a quick glance to his right-hand man. There is little to check his absolute tyranny. Oh, yes.... a big bureaucracy made of of folks who have no free press to raise a "Resistance" movement of any kind.
Trying to posit some kind of equivalence, morally, between China and the US, or between Trump and Xi, is nonsense. Hillary and Xi, maybe. Obama and Xi, no..... because Obama is just the
Emperor's shoeshine boy.
America still has a constitution, and that is about all the keeps us from going down in the dumps any worse than we are.
Bannon is simply claiming we have more competent science, something Xi doesn't have to believe.
South Korea, presently, has a government quite comprobable to what ours would be under Hillary or Obama. I mean pretty damn top-down management with no lattitude for screw-ups, and with leadership perfectly willing to throw you under the bus if it looks necessary. He was just getting out of the picture.....
After posting this, it seems, while I went about my days' business, I might not actually be up-to-date already. I mean, it seems likely that almost anyone directly involved would know all that weeks ago, and the real question is now how much can we really trust our science, under both Trump and Xi.+
I guess we'll see, soon.
There's a pretty elaborate conspiracy theory about the virus, prompted by a supposed Chinese military intelligence officer spilling the beans after his son came down with the virus. I'm not quite buying it yet, but am looking at evidence as it comes up.
The gist of the story is that the ccp was trying to develop a nerve agent they could put in the air as an aerosol that would make the Hong Kong population more docile and quiet down the protests. The nerve agent was tested on incarcerated populations in remote areas of China (mostly Xinjiang Prov.), and it turned out to be too deadly during trials to use. It was then being held in the BSL-4 facility in Wuhan when the CIA heard about it and tried to purchase it. A struggle ensued, and the nerve agent escaped containment. It's lethal. The actual death toll in Wuhan alone is over 200,000 and possibly in the millions.
So what's happening is that some people in Wuhan and China more broadly are getting the flu as usual, since it's flu season, and others are being afflicted by this deadly bio-weapon. The ccp is coercing medical personnel in China to diagnose regular flu cases as coronavirus, but this is just a cover. There is no coronavirus. There is instead this deadly bio-weapon that escaped containment. The WHO is supporting the cover story, and so is the U.S. No one wants to talk about bio-warfare in the public sector or to disclose behind-the-scenes cooperation between the U.S. and China. The doctor who tried to blow the whistle in December Li Wenliang was taken out to cover it up.
Not sure I'm buying it, but this is the story. If it's a hoax, it's a really elaborate one.
The gist of the story is that the ccp was trying to develop a nerve agent they could put in the air as an aerosol that would make the Hong Kong population more docile and quiet down the protests. The nerve agent was tested on incarcerated populations in remote areas of China (mostly Xinjiang Prov.), and it turned out to be too deadly during trials to use. It was then being held in the BSL-4 facility in Wuhan when the CIA heard about it and tried to purchase it. A struggle ensued, and the nerve agent escaped containment. It's lethal. The actual death toll in Wuhan alone is over 200,000 and possibly in the millions.
So what's happening is that some people in Wuhan and China more broadly are getting the flu as usual, since it's flu season, and others are being afflicted by this deadly bio-weapon. The ccp is coercing medical personnel in China to diagnose regular flu cases as coronavirus, but this is just a cover. There is no coronavirus. There is instead this deadly bio-weapon that escaped containment. The WHO is supporting the cover story, and so is the U.S. No one wants to talk about bio-warfare in the public sector or to disclose behind-the-scenes cooperation between the U.S. and China. The doctor who tried to blow the whistle in December Li Wenliang was taken out to cover it up.
Not sure I'm buying it, but this is the story. If it's a hoax, it's a really elaborate one.
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Who are you talking to?
The fact that you are "researching" stuff like this and even entertaining it's truthfulness says a lot.
There are multiple sources with a similar version of this story.
He's demanding that global experts gain access to real data on the ground in China, a perfectly reasonable thing to expect in the event of a global pandemic. Your trying to make a political statement in response seems pretty typical though.
I'm sure there are, lol.
Red
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I need to become more educated on this. I never realized the common cold is a form of coronavirus. This is a long article, but it did help in helping me get up to speed...
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/607000/
Lipsitch predicts that within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. “It’s likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic,” he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, about 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)
"Lipsitch is far from alone in his belief that this virus will continue to spread widely. The emerging consensus among epidemiologists is that the most likely outcome of this outbreak is a new seasonal disease—a fifth “endemic” coronavirus. With the other four, people are not known to develop long-lasting immunity. If this one follows suit, and if the disease continues to be as severe as it is now, “cold and flu season” could become “cold and flu and COVID-19 season.”
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/607000/
Lipsitch predicts that within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. “It’s likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic,” he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, about 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)
"Lipsitch is far from alone in his belief that this virus will continue to spread widely. The emerging consensus among epidemiologists is that the most likely outcome of this outbreak is a new seasonal disease—a fifth “endemic” coronavirus. With the other four, people are not known to develop long-lasting immunity. If this one follows suit, and if the disease continues to be as severe as it is now, “cold and flu season” could become “cold and flu and COVID-19 season.”
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sahlensguy
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Dow down 525.