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JazzGal said:
More power to the people tuning in to the daily briefings. Personally can't listen to his rants.

Wonder how many of the people tuning in are doing so to listen to Fausi?

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I literally have never watched a press conference of his live. And I'm not just talking about his coronavirus virus ones. I'm talking any live press conference, state of the union address, rally, interview, etc. Never tuned in to a single one.

Hell, though I have watched small clips of some of the crap he says, I have also never watched any of his recorded public speakings start to finish even non-live.


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The Thriller said:
of course, we all know even if we did and if that person was a Democrat, these pieces of **** would do everything to prevent he/she from being successful:
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I also believe that if we had elected an awesome republican for president who was simply fantastic in every way that the democrats would do everything they could to prevent he/she from being successful.

2 party system sucks.

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Catchall said:
Current Utah statistics:
** 602 positive diagnoses from a base of 11,312 tests administered to people showing symptoms
** 95% of tests are negative, meaning they have the flu or some other viral infection
** 2 deaths have occurred so far, resulting in a fatality rate of 0.33%
** Both fatalities were patients with underlying conditions
** If we assume that there are at least another 600 or so people out there with the infection who have not been tested, the fatality rate drops into the 0.15% - 0.20% range, which is indeed comparable with seasonal flu.

I assume we'll continue to social distance and watch the data for another week or so, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if people started going back to work in mid-April with some basic precautions. At least a dozen or two other states are similar.
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Agreed

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Catchall said:
So is dementia. The most compassionate thing any administration could have done was ban flights from China 2 - 3 weeks earlier than they did. That's what seeded the virus in Washington, Northern California and New York.
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Ya both parties will be fielding old *** dudes with dementia in the next election. Pretty lame

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Catchall said:
Current Utah statistics:
** 602 positive diagnoses from a base of 11,312 tests administered to people showing symptoms
** 95% of tests are negative, meaning they have the flu or some other viral infection
** 2 deaths have occurred so far, resulting in a fatality rate of 0.33%
** Both fatalities were patients with underlying conditions
** If we assume that there are at least another 600 or so people out there with the infection who have not been tested, the fatality rate drops into the 0.15% - 0.20% range, which is indeed comparable with seasonal flu.

I assume we'll continue to social distance and watch the data for another week or so, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if people started going back to work in mid-April with some basic precautions. At least a dozen or two other states are similar.
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A lot of people are still being to asked to go into work in Utah. Business as usual as they say.
 
fishonjazz said:
That's about where I think we end up.
That's a lot of deaths but not as bad as many predictions at least I guess.
Just sucks all around.

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Originally, we were told that, based on data from Italy, the U.S. could have 1 - 2 million casualties by the summer. When it's said and done, I'm guessing we come in around 50k or lower, with nearly 70% of them occurring in a few hotspots. Fauci is trying to manage people's expectations.
 
Catchall said:
Originally, we were told that, based on data from Italy, the U.S. could have 1 - 2 million casualties by the summer. When it's said and done, I'm guessing we come in around 50k or lower, with nearly 70% of them occurring in a few hotspots. Fauci is trying to manage people's expectations.
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I think the way you're looking at the numbers fails to consider that NONE OF US who haven't had COVID-19 have any immunity to it at all. So you point to places that have had minor occurrences of it so far, largely due to enacting social distancing before it got out of hand and you conclude that social distancing is not and was not necessary and that we should go back to business as usual.

I think that's wrong. Once exposed all of us will get COVID-19 unless a prophylactic treatment/vaccine is available before we are exposed.

SLC is just as likely to have a massive outbreak as NYC, just depends on exposure. Because we enacted the measures we did before the outbreak got out of control we are effectively flattening the curve. Had we not enacted those measures the rates of infection would be growing at the same rate we've see it grow anywhere these measures haven't been adequately implemented.

Again, without a treatment or cure sooner or later every last one of us will get COVID-19 if exposed. This thing is going to bloom in one place only to be controlled and then come back around and bloom again in all the people who have not yet been exposed.

This is not the flu. We all have partial immunity to the flu, many of us have been vaccinated against the currently most prevalent flu virus, and it still kills a lot of people. I don't care if COVID-19 has 1/10th the mortality rate of the flu it has the potential to kill many many times more people than the flu does if we all just carelessly get sick at the same time.
 
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fishonjazz said:
I also believe that if we had elected an awesome republican for president who was simply fantastic in every way that the democrats would do everything they could to prevent he/she from being successful.

2 party system sucks.

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lol

How many times have Democrats gone to the White House to negotiate immigration reform or “infrastructure week?” When Obama tried to pass his stimulus, Republicans openly bragged about voting against it to purposely make economic recovery harder and make him a one term president. When developing Obamacare, Republicans insisted on having certain provisions in the bill. Then they voted against their own provisions. Why? They hoped Democrats wouldn’t pass their provisions so they could blame them for shutting them out of working on obamacare. So when Democrats relented, they still voted against the provisions because they ultimately didn’t want to give Obama a big health care win.

When Democrats had the chance for payback right now, they worked with Republicans and passed a bill. If Hillary was president, republicans would be openly bragging about making this economy worse to destroy the her re-election. I guarantee it.

Just because we have a two party system doesn’t mean we have equal levels of partisanship.
 
fishonjazz said:
I also believe that if we had elected an awesome republican for president who was simply fantastic in every way that the democrats would do everything they could to prevent he/she from being successful.

2 party system sucks.

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Except, we have currently have a terrible Republican president and democrats aren't doing that, so.
 
The Thriller said:
lol

How many times have Democrats gone to the White House to negotiate immigration reform or “infrastructure week?” When Obama tried to pass his stimulus, Republicans openly bragged about voting against it to purposely make economic recovery harder and make him a one term president. When developing Obamacare, Republicans insisted on having certain provisions in the bill. Then they voted against their own provisions. Why? They hoped Democrats wouldn’t pass their provisions so they could blame them for shutting them out of working on obamacare. So when Democrats relented, they still voted against the provisions because they ultimately didn’t want to give Obama a big health care win.

When Democrats had the chance for payback right now, they worked with Republicans and passed a bill. If Hillary was president, republicans would be openly bragging about making this economy worse to destroy the her re-election. I guarantee it.

Just because we have a two party system doesn’t mean we have equal levels of partisanship.
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You see things a certain, typical and predictable way though.
I saw democrats taking this opportunity to grab some of the money in this stimulus package for agendas they support. And it slowed down the process.

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It's gonna be really bad in Utah. Cases have almost doubled in just two days. It was 402, now 719. In just a couple days we'll be over 1,000. In a week... several thousand.

Local government has EPICALLY failed.

Please for the love of god don't vote for this f****** clown Spencer Cox in November. Please.
 
I'm glad trump extended the social distancing measures until the end of April and gave up on the Easter timeline

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SCS said:
It's gonna be really bad in Utah. Cases have almost doubled in just two days. It was 402, now 719. In just a couple days we'll be over 1,000. In a week... several thousand.

Local government has EPICALLY failed.

Please for the love of god don't vote for this f****** clown Spencer Cox in November. Please.
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Never heard of him lol

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Zombie said:
It's been a wild ride from "we have fifteen cases and it's going to be at zero soon," to we could have had two million deaths, so if we end up with only 100k, it means we did a really good job.
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And to think U.S. could easily double the number of deaths they suffered at the Vietnam War, and in some scenarios WWII. Some many lives could have been saved if strict/smart measures were taken sooner. Devastating to think about it.
 
latin jazz said:
And to think U.S. could easily double the number of deaths they suffered at the Vietnam War, and in some scenarios WWII. Some many lives could have been saved if strict/smart measures were taken sooner. Devastating to think about it.
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trump today bragged about getting credit if they can keep the death toll under 200,000.... which would be 4x the American casualties of the entire Vietnam War, which ruined LBJ and set american foreign policy back a generation. In fact, 200,000 would be greater than the Korean War, Vietnam war, Iraqi wars, and Afghanistan War combined. We’re talking about World War numbers in one year.

And yet Trump is still in contention for re-election. Lol. The power of Fox News. Amazing
 
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