The Thriller
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Uh oh! 
best news I’ve seen in along time
best news I’ve seen in along time
Coronavirus
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The Thriller
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where are people getting this crap from? Facebook, Trump, and Fox News have proven time after time to be unreliable. I don’t understand why we must keep going through this. Especially when a segment of our population remains unwilling to attempt the proven ways of combating this disease, social distancing.
The Thriller
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If you were to watch just one thing today, it should be this
No.
Just do the research. The information is out there. Doctors are literally using this worldwide.
Yes, we all get it. You don't like Trump so anything he possibly talks about has to be bs and you're going to write it off.
Fine, don't listen to Trump. Just do your own freaking research and use your brain.
Actual doctors who aren't worried about politics are using this. There is evidence that Hydroxychloroquine blocks (or limits) the rna replication of COVID19.
The Thriller
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he’s President of the United States. You can’t just “turn him off” if you don’t like what he’s saying. He has the world’s largest platform and his own words often translates into policy. As much as I hate him you can’t just dismiss what he says.
You Using “Dr Oz” proves my point. Your last few posts explains perfectly what is wrong with America right now. Distrust of expertise (Fauci) and proven methods (social distancing) and trust in entertainers (Oz) and their unproven and dangerous “solutions.” Ive read that in some states that pharmacies are struggling to have enough stock of this drug to people who have actually been proscribed it (not for Covid) because of Trump’s words.
For those of you who haven’t read “The Death of Expertise” by Tom Nichols yet, I’d highly suggest it during this time. It’s an easy and fast read. Written a few years ago yet it’s prophetic of our time where the ignorance of morons is valued equal to or greater than the knowledge of experts.
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****ing hell.
Dr. Oz is a disgusting POS. He's a ****ing entertainer, just like douche bag Dr. Drew, who had to walk back his VERY dangerous statement saying that "Doctors" were not worried about COVID-19 and that it wasn't a pandemic.
STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO ENTERTAINERS WHO CALL THEMSELVES DOCTORS!
Physicians had been discussing and prescribing this (for COVID-19) before Trump made any statements, and the questions of supply had already been discussed before I ever heard Trump talking about it.
The Thriller
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anyone Wonder if trump and some of his friends have stock in this drug? The way they’re pumping it makes me wonder if they’re pulling a Burr/Loeffer and trying to profit off this disease. There’s definitely precedent for this sort of thing...
It’s a generic drug. The real money is made when the drug is on patent. Once a medication is off patent, it’s much less likely to pick up FDA indications for other conditions because there’s nobody financially backing it. This is only tangentially related, but I had mentioned in another thread that though everyone is skeptical of drug companies, our society accepts the conclusions of drug companies into our societal understanding of “science” and “medicine” because we give great credence to FDA indications (or non-indications) when we fail to realize that the biggest hurdle in FDA indications is someone willing (i.e. a pharmaceutical company) to fund the study sufficient to get an indication.
tl;dr there really isn’t a ton of money involved in this. It’s a cheap medication. And while it could get high utilization during an epidemic, this is used for short duration. This is why drugs you take indefinitely (diabetes, blood pressure, antidepressants, cholesterol modifying, etc.) have more financial backing from pharmaceutical companies because there’s a lot more money to be made on people who will take something for 10+ years than there is something that’s taken for a week or two (antibiotics), and a reason why you aren’t seeing antibiotic commercials.
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Interesting perspective
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LOL. But what does the president of the AMA know?
For bunch of people who rip on the “Hollywood elite”, they sure do swing from the ballz of those that they agree with.
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The Thriller
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It appears as if governor Newsom of California, is creating a coalition of unified states, a, “United States”, if you may, where these states become stronger together so that they can better deal with this pandemic. If only we lived in a country of united states and had a leader, like governor Newsom, to unite the country.
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Trump's hands are tied. There is nothing he can do. States have all the power.
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Red
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I believe it's obvious why Trump is promoting its usage. And I'm interested in his motive, beyond the fact that some doctors and hospitals are using it as a desperate last effort. He is promoting it as a gamble that it will make him a hero, and help his reelection. That is the only reason he is doing this, IMO. "If this works, I am the hero".
And it's no wonder Dr. Fauci was not permitted by Trump to give his opinion at Sunday's briefing. Sounds like we got a mad scientist on our hands, and it ain't Fauci. Maybe this is the Dr. Frankenstein phase of the mad king's administration. Caligula's reincarnation perhaps:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/us/politics/trump-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus.html
Dr. Megan L. Ranney, an emergency physician at Brown University in Rhode Island, said in an interview on Sunday night that she had never seen an elected official advertise a miracle cure the way Mr. Trump has.
“There are side effects to hydroxychloroquine,” Dr. Ranney said. “It causes psychiatric symptoms, cardiac problems and a host of other bad side effects.”
Dr. Ranney said that the drug could be effective for some patients, but that there was not nearly enough scientific evidence to support Mr. Trump’s claims.
“There may be a role for it for some people,” she said, “but to tell Americans ‘you don’t have anything to lose,’ that’s not true. People certainly have something to lose by taking it indiscriminately.”
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Douchebag K
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Your country is so deeply ****ed.
Half of you furiously try to show that someone and his side of politics is full of **** and literally Hitler about everything, like literally Hitler and fascist. The other half furiously prop up what the government says and that the other side of politics are deranged blinkered hypocrites.
the degree of detail that most Anericans try to read into how the other side is completely 100 % wrong about everything and therefore awful humans is so laughable. You guys are so deeply ****ed.
Half of you furiously try to show that someone and his side of politics is full of **** and literally Hitler about everything, like literally Hitler and fascist. The other half furiously prop up what the government says and that the other side of politics are deranged blinkered hypocrites.
the degree of detail that most Anericans try to read into how the other side is completely 100 % wrong about everything and therefore awful humans is so laughable. You guys are so deeply ****ed.
