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I think I might prefer a prospect like Robert Woodard. Much more polished shooter, better athlete, absolutely yoked, probably about the same size length wise (think both are right above 7'). Only negative is that he's 2 years older than Williams, but I also doubt Williams actually drops to 23.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think I might prefer a prospect like Robert Woodard. Much more polished shooter, better athlete, absolutely yoked, probably about the same size length wise (think both are right below 7'). Only negative is that he's 2 years older than Williams, but I also doubt Williams actually drops to 23.
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My criticism of Patrick Williams is that he seems to stay upright on offense, and his basic dribble limits his ability to get by guys. Now maybe that's just the role he was playing most of the time at FSU, and he can probably do more than he's shown on offense. He's strong and sneaky explosive and can probably get where he wants to by overpowering guys. What he can do--spot up, mid-range, crash the glass, defend 2 or 3 positions--looks like it will translate.

I have to look again at Woodard.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
According to his Wiki Pat Williams is only 18 and will turn 19 in August, so super young. Possibly the youngest player in the NBA when he gets drafted (if he stays in).
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it's what makes me think he's going to be gone by the time the Jazz pick. Jazz best case scenario is Saddiq Bey, but he's gonna be long gone. I think Xavier Tillman would help the Jazz quite a bit as well
 
Tony Jones said:
it's what makes me think he's going to be gone by the time the Jazz pick. Jazz best case scenario is Saddiq Bey, but he's gonna be long gone. I think Xavier Tillman would help the Jazz quite a bit as well
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I think Jordan Nwora is a safe if not terribly exciting pick. I think offensively he can be similar to Dillon Brooks, and he's a bit tougher and more defensively engaged than Brooks. To me, that's more or less the Jazz's floor in this draft.

Another guy who could help the Jazz defensively would be Paul Reed, imo.
 
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Catchall said:
I think Jordan Nwora is a safe if not terribly exciting pick. I think offensively he can be similar to Dillon Brooks, and he's a bit tougher and more defensively engaged than Brooks. To me, that's more or less the Jazz's floor in this draft.

Another guy who could help the Jazz defensively would be Paul Reed, imo.
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Utah isnt gonna take Nwora in the first rd. I'd be shocked.

Paul Reed is a fun player, DePaul was a fun team this year. He's gonna fall to the 2nd rd tho.
 
Tony Jones said:
it's what makes me think he's going to be gone by the time the Jazz pick. Jazz best case scenario is Saddiq Bey, but he's gonna be long gone. I think Xavier Tillman would help the Jazz quite a bit as well
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Former 3-star recruit Xavier Tillman!
 
Catchall said:
The idea being Nesmith can get downhill and get to the rim a bit more than Hield, and he's similar athletically to Levert. Hield is the right comp though.
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I mean... did you watch a bunch of vanderbilt games this year before he went down with a foot fracture??

Buddy Hield is far more athletic than Nesmith, he reportedly jumped 40" for the Lakers.. Nesmith couldnt sniff that even before the foot fracture....

I dont think what you're talking about with him getting downhill is something we're gonna be seeing often or anytime soon with any sort of consistency in the NBA either..

He's a floor spacer, who's not gonna chuck up dumb shots... Which if u watch Buddy Hield, he takes 2-3 dumb/hero shots every game, with at least one wild forray dribbling into the paint with the hard tunnelvision locked in...
 
Tony Jones said:
it's what makes me think he's going to be gone by the time the Jazz pick. Jazz best case scenario is Saddiq Bey, but he's gonna be long gone. I think Xavier Tillman would help the Jazz quite a bit as well
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Agreed on Bey as well. Tillman reads a lot like Trevor Booker to me, so it'd be a great pickup, just hard to justify when there will probably be several rotation potential with starter upside wings available.
 
Catchall said:
I think Jordan Nwora is a safe if not terribly exciting pick. I think offensively he can be similar to Dillon Brooks, and he's a bit tougher and more defensively engaged than Brooks. To me, that's more or less the Jazz's floor in this draft.

Another guy who could help the Jazz defensively would be Paul Reed, imo.
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No way in hell is Nwora tougher than Brooks.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
Utah isnt gonna take Nwora in the first rd. I'd be shocked.
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Seems like I said this about Grayson Allen not too long ago.

Realistically, I think the Jazz would take Jalen Smith as their fall back and make him their long-awaited stretch 5. That's actually not a bad value-pick.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
The wings being discussed; Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams and Aaron Nesmith are unlikely to fall to Utah IMO.
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Nesmith could conceivably drop a bit just because he's been injured.

If the regular season does start up again, the Jazz could lose a couple games and get ahead of Miami, Houston and OKC in the draft order. There's no such thing as homecourt advantage this year anyway. First round is rumored to be best-of-3, I think.
 
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homeytennis said:
Catchall: How would these guys stack up vs. current Stars players both contract players and assignment players?
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The players we're discussing in our draft range are definite rotation players and potential starting-caliber players. A few of them (like Williams, Nesmith and maybe Bolmaro) even have some star potential as well. Among our rookies and 2-way guys this year, only Jarrell Brantley and Rayjon Tucker are potential starting-caliber players, imo, and both of them still have a lot to prove.

-- Brantley needs to play hard consistently, stay in front on defense, cut down on his turnovers, and keep improving his shooting from distance. If he were in this draft, he'd probably get picked in the 35 - 45 range.
-- Tucker needs to show better feel for the game, move the ball, and shoot better than he's shown as well. Otherwise, he's probably only going to get spot minutes. If he were in this draft, he'd probably get picked in the 40 - 50 range.
-- Juwan Morgan has a clear role as a 3rd or 4th big who is versatile defensively. If he were in this draft he'd go in the 45 - undrafted range.
-- JWF is an undersized shooting guard. He plays that role well, but it's a question of when Quin wants to put a Seth Curry-type volume shooter on the floor, given that we have other guys taking shots. If he were 6'3" he'd be getting looks in the late 1st and early 2nd round of this draft, but he isn't 6'3".
-- Miye Oni is a backup 3D wing who can straight-line drive. He may be mostly a defensive specialist, but he needs to show he can shoot more consistently to get on the floor. He'd also be a late 2nd-round pick.

What the Jazz are looking for, I think, is one more starting-caliber / impact player to play between Mitchell and Gobert. The Jazz can then fill in the gaps with the shooters (Bogdanovic) and 3/D glue guys (Ingles/Royce) they have.

If it were up to me, I might be willing to trade our pick + Royce O'Neale for Devin Vassell at FSU, assuming another team would even consider that deal. Otherwise, I'd hope that one of Bolmaro, Nesmith, Ramsey or Williams is on the board when we draft.
 
Lmfao at Cy licking Jones’ balls. I called Bey before anyone here, perhaps including Lord ******** Artist.

That sounded a bit Lordy.
 
Saddiq Bey has size, he can really shoot, and he can probably score some in isolation. I haven't been terribly impressed with much else he does. He plays for Villanova though, and that means he's probably ready to step into a pro system. That's worth something.
 
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