Keefe
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What are you talking about? And you’d feel dead running 6 miles in an hour? That’s pretty bad dude. I’m at 211.8 with 28.8% body fat and wildly out of shape and could def run that.
Who supposedly ran 8 miles in 42 minutes?
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What are you talking about? And you’d feel dead running 6 miles in an hour? That’s pretty bad dude. I’m at 211.8 with 28.8% body fat and wildly out of shape and could def run that.
Who supposedly ran 8 miles in 42 minutes?
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Keefe
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It’s possible. Maybe. But I’d be very doubtful.
Could run that or do run that? I mean, maybe I could if there were a gun to my head or some other incentive. I think the farthest I’ve ever maintained a 10 min/mi pace is 4 miles. And I’m not certain about that. I know I’ve done 3.5 miles. I just got done doing 6 miles. The first three I did in 30 mins, the second two in 19:45, and the last mile took almost 19 minutes mostly walking. And I’d say that’s probably pretty good for the average person. Not being able to do 6 miles in 60 minutes probably holds true for 95+% of the population.
This. So much this. I'm so tired of NBA fans blaming Stockton and Malone for not getting the job done and acting like they weren't good enough to win a championship. They were. In their mid 30's they carried a bunch of system role players to the brink of beating Michael Jordan and the greatest team of all time. Like are you kidding me? No disrespect to guys like Adam Keefe, Shandon Anderson, Howard Eisley, Greg Ostertag, Greg Foster, etc etc but what did they accomplish In the league when they weren't on the Jazz?
People suck Tim Duncan off. Malone didn't have Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, David Robinson, Kawhi Leonard, Sean Elliott, Michael Finley, and on and on. If he did he would have multiple rings too.
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Yeah I don't know if I buy that. That's a steady pace of 5 minutes per mile. Considering world class is pushing 4 minutes per mile that's beyond crazy, I believe it's exaggerated.
So I looked it up and the world record for a 10k, which is just over 6 miles, is 26 and a half minutes, or about 4.5 minutes per mile. So he maintained a pace of 5 minutes per mile for 8 miles? Yeah I don't see it. That's an exaggeration for sure.
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It also mentioned that he supposedly did this without any prior training for this 8 mile episode. That’s where my suspicions peaked.
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It is likely exaggerated, but keep in mind that professional athletes are professional athletes for a reason. According to the interwebs, Tyreek Hill of the KC Chiefs has run a 100m dash in 10.19 seconds. I just looked up the times at the 2016 Olympics, and one of the 24 semifinalists ran slower than that and two more ran within 5 hundredths of a second of that. Even in the final, there were times of 10.06 and 10.04. These are 24 and 8 fastest men in the world.
8 miles is roughly 12.9 kilometres. 10km world record is 26 minutes and 17 seconds. Since the distances are close, we can probably transpose here. The expected time for a WC holder over 8 miles would be around 34 minutes. Would a difference of 8 minutes be normal for a world class athlete from a different sport? That's about 24% slower.
8 miles is roughly 12.9 kilometres. 10km world record is 26 minutes and 17 seconds. Since the distances are close, we can probably transpose here. The expected time for a WC holder over 8 miles would be around 34 minutes. Would a difference of 8 minutes be normal for a world class athlete from a different sport? That's about 24% slower.
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The difference between a 10.19 (not even sure that’s true) and a 10.06 is large. Not huge. But fairly substantial. Keep in mind too, the guy is naturally fast as **** and trains as an explosive NFL athlete. He might even do track workouts consistently. Explosive athletes can do such on little training. Hell, my senior year we had a kid come and high jump 6’6” in his first meet. He practiced maybe once or twice leading up to it. And his form stunk. He was just naturally that explosive which some men are.
That’s far different than being a distance runner and training for running distances.
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But 8 miles in 42 minutes is exactly 5:15 pace. I highly doubt that. I’m guessing he estimated the distance. Like it’s some loop that he thinks is 2 miles and really it’s like 1.85...so instead of running 8 miles, he ran 7.4. That would be 5:40 a mile then and believable. But yeah, I don’t believe it at all. The number of people who have vehemently insisted to me certain times to me in their life and been wrong is looooong. Hell, I remember some idiot opposing coach in high school swearing his team’s course was 5K. Right dumbass, the leaders run 15:30 there but 16:45-17:15 on every other course and your course is accurate. Sure it is. Guy was such a fat dumbass. You’d be astounded at the number of people who don’t know the significance of measuring accurately or knowing how to use a God damn stopwatch when it comes to running so far as mentioning achievements go.
Saying 5% of Americans can do 6 in 60 is probably being generous.
A lot of reporting of athletic feats is wildly exaggerated though. Like the whole "Malone was 5% body fat and Stockton was 2%"
Please post a picture of a treadmill or running ap with that mileage and time.
We played an away game in high school one at a 3A school (our HS system went up to 4A at the time). We were seriously off that game couldn't hit ****. Everything kept rimming out. We were down by about 10 at the half, being an undefeated 4A team. It made no sense. One of our coaches had a suspicion and had the court measured during half. Turns out the rim was 1/2 inch short, maybe closer to 3/4, something like that. Everything we shot went long or was just off. He complained, they cranked the rims a half inch. Had it officially measured, was all good. Torched them in the 2nd half by like 30. Believe me a little bit can really make a difference. It was an eye opening moment for me. I was on a tear from 3 at that point in the season, has settled into a nice groove. That game first half I made like 1 of 6. 2nd half I went like 5 of 7. Amazing what a difference that can make.
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Dude will get on a bike and rig the results.
Jazzmix
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What fascinates me in basketball is how psychology affects it on so many levels: the runs, momentum, how shooting can be contagious etc. Don't you think that the situation you described could be explained by psychological effect of telling your team: guys, it's not your fault you were not accurate, now it's fixed. I think it could have given you a big boost in confidence.
Undoubtedly. The crazy part was how badly we were missing in the first place, when the defense was nothing stellar and normally we would have been well ahead. Obviously at the outset the difference in rim height had an impact. Correcting it and letting us know then had a double effect as correcting the situation to match training and the psychological boost. All of that was very interesting in the impact on the game.
A lot like in the movie Hosiers when he measures the court to show his team it is the same exact court they were using back home.
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Maybe a little, but I can vouch for the smallest differences being huge when you play. I've played on dodgy, non-regulation height rims, and it sucks. Doesn't matter if it's only off by an inch, it throws everything off. Unless you're not that good, and then it's pretty much the same.
Hell, for being 5'11, I've always been old school and have a wicked hook shoot/push shot and a turnaround jumper. Both are bank shots and I like to do them from the left side. If it's not a proper, Plexiglas backboard, I don't even bother attempting stuff like that. I just can't adjust to weird kinks in an old wooden backboard or a cheap driveway plastic one that quickly.