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juds101 said:
I honestly think that there is a trade with the bulls that would be beneficial to both teams.

Conley for Satoransky/young

more a step further (don’t hate me)
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Bulls save money have a legit All Star. Conley can teach white and have a solid team of Conley/Mitchell/porter/young/carter and if it doesn’t work out, Conley/porter both expire at the end of the year and Bulls have a core of white/Mitchell/Carter with enough cap space for 2 potential max contracts in the summer of 2021.

Jazz have Satoransky/lavine/bogdanovic/markenden/Gobert with a bench of clarkson/Royce/Ingles/felicio
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Hell no
 
NUMBERICA said:
Would take Harris on his deal in a heartbeat provided we don't have to pay for Bojan and Conley. Don't know how to work such a thing in a deal but I just think the fit would be SO good.
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I think Conley/Bojan for Harris/Richardson would work salary wise. I'm not sure if that makes the Jazz any better though
 
I think Conley and our 1st (#23) to NY for Randle, Nklitina and the Clippers' 1st (#27 which NY owns) has some potential. NY spends more but move up in the draft. They also might covet Conley who can help guide a leader-less locker room.

Conley ($34.5)
Randle ($18.9) Nklitina ($6.2) = $25.1

We shed $10 million in cap while picking up a big who can score and rebound. And we need more perimeter defenders like Frank Nklitina.

Maybe they do the trade without the picks.



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David Stern said:
I think Conley/Bojan for Harris/Richardson would work salary wise. I'm not sure if that makes the Jazz any better though
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We still need a believable 4, and Bojan gives us nothing besides very good scoring. Harris is also substantially younger, and both his PER and +/- bear out that he's a more complete player. It's not long ago that he was also one of the best playmaking 4s in the PnR in the entire league.
 
LoPo said:
Like I said, I'm holding out hope that the NBA comes up with some measure to save money for the owners for the viability of the league.
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Sounded initially to me more like you were trying to imagine a way to get out of Conley's contract penalty free (which to be fair to you, it seems like you're not alone in wanting to do).

I wouldn't say its out of the realm of possibility for the Jazz to do something with Conley's contract this offseason, but I'd put the odds of it relatively low (and personally I won't be upset if Conley's back with us -- sorry I can't muster up the desperation that many of the rest of you can in this regard).
 
NUMBERICA said:
Would take Harris on his deal in a heartbeat provided we don't have to pay for Bojan and Conley. Don't know how to work such a thing in a deal but I just think the fit would be SO good.
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We could move Bojan for assets in a separate deal.
 
NUMBERICA said:
We still need a believable 4, and Bojan gives us nothing besides very good scoring. Harris is also substantially younger, and both his PER and +/- bear out that he's a more complete player. It's not long ago that he was also one of the best playmaking 4s in the PnR in the entire league.
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I just watched the end of the Philly game. That’s a miserable team... I think many of them are playing below what they could.
 
I 1000% expect us to keep this core together, re-sign Clarkson, use the MLE to boost the bench, keep our pick.

The only likely salary dump move will be to move Ed.
 
SCS said:
So... yeah, like I was saying...



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Because we have a real issue admitting we are wrong. We are going to transition from grossly overpaying Conley to grossly overpaying Gobert.

I told you guys the Conley deal was not a good idea. I hate being a mediocre team.

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LoPo said:
Because we have a real issue admitting we are wrong. We are going to transition from grossly overpaying Conley to grossly overpaying Gobert.

I told you guys the Conley deal was not a good idea. I hate being a mediocre team.

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It's funny to me that people here can watch the playoffs and still not understand why the Jazz value Conley.

Like go watch game 1. Murray and Jokic ran two man pick and roll for damn near the entire 4th and OT. Denver ran nothing else. Utah ran PnR for Donovan to exploit a mismatch almost every possession. That's why he scored 57.

THAT'S PLAYOFF BASKETBALL. It's all about one or two players identifying mismatches and exploiting them.

The Jazz learned the difference between regular season basketball and playoff basketball playing Houston the last few years. Yeah with Rubio, Favs and that group we were a fun and consistent regular season team. But we got to the playoffs and Donovan was the only one who could exploit a mismatch. Houston simply switched everything defensively and locked our offense.

This is why the Jazz traded for Conley. This is why the Jazz signed Bogey. This is why the Jazz traded for Clarkson.

These are guys who can exploit mismatches offensively in playoff situations. That is why the Jazz value these guys.

Making a prediction now... if the Jazz keep this core group together and improve the bench this offseason a whole lot of people are going to feel silly that they doubted this group come the playoffs in 2021.
 
SCS said:
It's funny to me that people here can watch the playoffs and still not understand why the Jazz value Conley.

Like go watch game 1. Murray and Jokic ran two man pick and roll for damn near the entire 4th and OT. Denver ran nothing else. Utah ran PnR for Donovan to exploit a mismatch almost every possession. That's why he scored 57.

THAT'S PLAYOFF BASKETBALL. It's all about one or two players identifying mismatches and exploiting them.

The Jazz learned the difference between regular season basketball and playoff basketball playing Houston the last few years. Yeah with Rubio, Favs and that group we were a fun and consistent regular season team. But we got to the playoffs and Donovan was the only one who could exploit a mismatch. Houston simply switched everything defensively and locked our offense.

This is why the Jazz traded for Conley. This is why the Jazz signed Bogey. This is why the Jazz traded for Clarkson.

These are guys who can exploit mismatches offensively in playoff situations. That is why the Jazz value these guys.

Making a prediction now... if the Jazz keep this core group together and improve the bench this offseason a whole lot of people are going to feel silly that they doubted this group come the playoffs in 2021.
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You are right. I need to see what Conley does in the playoffs prior to judging his deal. Hopefully, he's back for Game 3.

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I'd monitor the Otto Porter situation. Both him and Conley will most definitely opt in for their player option. But OTJ is 5yr younger than Conley and fits our need at 3/4. I'd wait till middle of next season to see how he recovers from his injuries before talking to Chicago for a possible deal
 
I do not really understand the negativity many Jazz fans have towards Conley. Yes he struggled when he first came but right before the break he was playing really well. He played well in the restart. Maybe some people had too high of expectations at the beginning and when he struggled they wrote him off but still he gets too much blame considering how well he has played lately. He is a great person and teammate and has fit in with the Jazz culture without any issues. Yes he has flaws to his game but I think he is important for a long run into the playoffs. We need his scoring and passing especially since our bench is so weak. I am sure glad the Jazz didn't win both games, I know that sounds strange, but for one reason if the Jazz had won both games and Conley plays in game 3 and we lose. Well just saying I think being on the board would be unbearable. LOL
 
SCS said:
It's funny to me that people here can watch the playoffs and still not understand why the Jazz value Conley.

Like go watch game 1. Murray and Jokic ran two man pick and roll for damn near the entire 4th and OT. Denver ran nothing else. Utah ran PnR for Donovan to exploit a mismatch almost every possession. That's why he scored 57.

THAT'S PLAYOFF BASKETBALL. It's all about one or two players identifying mismatches and exploiting them.

The Jazz learned the difference between regular season basketball and playoff basketball playing Houston the last few years. Yeah with Rubio, Favs and that group we were a fun and consistent regular season team. But we got to the playoffs and Donovan was the only one who could exploit a mismatch. Houston simply switched everything defensively and locked our offense.

This is why the Jazz traded for Conley. This is why the Jazz signed Bogey. This is why the Jazz traded for Clarkson.

These are guys who can exploit mismatches offensively in playoff situations. That is why the Jazz value these guys.

Making a prediction now... if the Jazz keep this core group together and improve the bench this offseason a whole lot of people are going to feel silly that they doubted this group come the playoffs in 2021.
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that’s a lot of nipple-raising description. Too bad there’s nothing about defense in there
 
cowhide said:
I do not really understand the negativity many Jazz fans have towards Conley. Yes he struggled when he first came but right before the break he was playing really well. He played well in the restart. Maybe some people had too high of expectations at the beginning and when he struggled they wrote him off but still he gets too much blame considering how well he has played lately. He is a great person and teammate and has fit in with the Jazz culture without any issues. Yes he has flaws to his game but I think he is important for a long run into the playoffs. We need his scoring and passing especially since our bench is so weak. I am sure glad the Jazz didn't win both games, I know that sounds strange, but for one reason if the Jazz had won both games and Conley plays in game 3 and we lose. Well just saying I think being on the board would be unbearable. LOL
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His defense and his floater fell off a ****ing cliff.
 
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