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Voter Suppression and Why The Republicans Love It So Much?

AlaskanAssassin said:
If you are interested in a reasonable conservative take on the Georgia Voting Laws, this guy does a pretty good job. I don't agree with every point he makes, but at least he does a good job of supporting his argument. Warning.......he thinks he's a lot funnier than he actually is.
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In the food/water discussion, he ignores that many voters are experiencing multi-hour waits in line while voting, and dehydration can be an issue for them.

Also, his example of wearing a MAGA hat while handing out food and water would be electioneering, just like wearing a Biden button would be. As he pointed out, electioneering was already against the law.

That's not even four minutes into the video, and less then two of him offering his "defense".
 
One Brow said:
There are more restrictive eligibility requirements for absentee ballots.
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What were the requirements before? My understanding is that they still have "no-excuse" absentee voting, and all that is required is for someone to put in the DL number or last 4 of their social on the application. Admittedly, maybe I'm missing something, but it seems very simple for 99.9% of eligible voters to request an absentee ballot if they want one.
Never thought I would spend this much time learning about Georgia voting laws.....lol.
 
The Thriller said:
At the micro level, It gives more power to Republican partisans rather than election officials. By limiting the number of drop boxes and requiring ID makes they've successfully made voting harder. Especially for those in urban areas and poorer populations.
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I have no idea why the number of drop boxes was reduced (low usage, or pure evil), but they were already requiring some form of ID prior to this. Georgia also issues FREE voter ID cards to anyone that wants one, so I don't think its an undue burden on poorer people to meet the voting requirements. If they can't get to the DMV to get a free ID card, they can sign up online for a no-excuse absentee ballot and only need the last 4 digits of their SS number. If Republicans in Georgia were truly trying to make it harder to vote, they did a very poor job. While there are a variety of things that could be improved (shorter lines, better communication, etc.), I don't see any of this as a hinderance to democracy. As all of these laws are being contested, we'll see if they end up having any impact on future elections. My bet is that it won't.

If you want to talk about an actual threat to our Democracy, how about the laws in place that essentially guarantee that a Republican and a Democrat will automatically be on the ballot for every election......but independents have to jump through an incredible amount of hurdles to get on the ballot. Let's all pause to consider conflict of interest here........Republican and Democratic politicians can (and do) enact laws making it more challenging for 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot (while making their party virtually automatic). Is it any surprise that we live in a two party country that divides everyone by political lines?

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...ependent-candidates-getting-ballot-ncna866466

Again, I agree that these laws were not needed, and politicians shouldn't have a hand in determining who votes and how (and for whom).
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
What were the requirements before? My understanding is that they still have "no-excuse" absentee voting, and all that is required is for someone to put in the DL number or last 4 of their social on the application. Admittedly, maybe I'm missing something, but it seems very simple for 99.9% of eligible voters to request an absentee ballot if they want one.
Never thought I would spend this much time learning about Georgia voting laws.....lol.
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Again, contrasted with 2020, you will now have to show that you can't vote on election for some reason (out of state, illness, etc.).

Think of Georgia as the test case.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
What were the requirements before? My understanding is that they still have "no-excuse" absentee voting, and all that is required is for someone to put in the DL number or last 4 of their social on the application. Admittedly, maybe I'm missing something, but it seems very simple for 99.9% of eligible voters to request an absentee ballot if they want one.
Never thought I would spend this much time learning about Georgia voting laws.....lol.
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I found one Georgia website that specified not being able to vote in person, and another that said no-excuse absentee balloting, so I'm not sure, You could be right.
 
One Brow said:
I found one Georgia website that specified not being able to vote in person, and another that said no-excuse absentee balloting, so I'm not sure, You could be right.
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I recall reading the new law requires ID for in person and mail (have to put in your ID # or send a photo of a different ID or last 4 of SSN. Previously in GA you only needed ID for in person).

The previous signature requirement for absentee/mail-in ballots was a problem, as they tried to match up signatures with registration, and many ballots that could not be confirmed were thrown out, which they tried to remedy. Matching to ID will hopefully avoid votes being thrown out, or at least at a much lower rate.

In regards to drop boxes, GA only allowed drop boxes due to the pandemic, and the new law still allows them, but they must be inside a voting location or clerks office. Still better than the pre- 2020 law.

They are also trying to streamline by helping to ensure people vote at the right place and take fewer provisional ballots, which are more likely to be thrown out than any other type of ballot (something close to 1/3 were not accepted).

Additionally, if any precinct in the last election had lines for over an hour to vote, they have to add an additional precinct and/or add more resources to lower wait times.

They also have a new hotline to report illegal activity/suppression/intimidation, which may be done anonymously.
 
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Tell me again how these voter suppression laws are about “election integrity” and not suppressing voters most likely to vote for Democrats



“bUt PhOtO iD!”
 
Oh weird. I’ve been told that these new voter suppression laws against Mail in ballots are to prevent fraud and not just to prevent POC who use Mail in ballots from voting.

 
Red said:
Living in an alternate universe....

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Talk about programmed and indoctrinated sheep.

Man it's easy to be a republican politician. Just say trump good, democrat bad. Biden bad. Then sit back and ride the waves of love. Easy peasy.

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fishonjazz said:
Talk about programmed and indoctrinated sheep.

Man it's easy to be a republican politician. Just say trump good, democrat bad. Biden bad. Then sit back and ride the waves of love. Easy peasy.

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And if you REALLY want to climb the ladder and make a ton of money, say some crazy racist ****. The crazier and more racist? The more money you’ll raise! Say contradictory things? Who gives a damn as long as it makes grievance motivated Fox news addicts feel better about themselves.

Say, “Trump is god. Jews use space lasers to help Spanish speaking woke antifa gay African American Muslims refugees to invade the eastern and western borders and vote for Democrats, like Biden, who drink innocent white Christian children’s blood. Democrats are a bunch of gay straight trans athletes muslim Jewish Buddhist Nazi commies who hate America!”

Politics as a Republican is easy if you have no soul. You don’t actually have to propose any legislation apart from tax cuts to donors.

While the rest of us work hard to earn money and rise up the ladder, these other folks just say bat **** crazy stuff and win elections, leadership positions, money, and fame. Oh and be sure to keep passing lower and lower tax cuts to corporations so you can keep that money flowing.
 
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DasJazz said:
Oh the irony.
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Did you watch the video?
Can you post a video of a democratic politician saying similar things to a roaring crowd?

I mean trump said that he could shoot someone in 5th avenue and not lose any supporters. That is trump almost literally calling his supporters indoctrinated, programmed, sheep. He is saying that he could do anything and his supporters would continue to follow him. He is calling his supporters sheep. And he was right!
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fishonjazz said:
Did you watch the video?
Can you post a video of a democratic politician saying similar things to a roaring crowd?

I mean trump said that he could shoot someone in 5th avenue and not lose any supporters. That is trump almost literally calling his supporters indoctrinated, programmed, sheep. He is saying that he could do anything and his supporters would continue to follow him. He is calling his supporters sheep. And he was right!
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This this and so much this.
 
The thing I don't get about the people who believe there is no way that Trump lost is this:
Trump's approval rating never got over 50% in his entire term. So why would anyone think it to be impossible for someone that less than 50% of the country approve of could lose an election? Trump losing would be the logical, common sense conclusion to come to in that case.

Plus don't Trumpers think that the media was out to get trump? If so, why? They (Trumpers) understand that the media want to make money right? And the best way to make money is to cover things that your target audience want to see. So most of the media are anti trump right? Then the logical, common sense conclusion should be that most of the people consuming the media are also anti trump. Which of course would lead to trump losing an election once again.

That's not even taking into account all the losses in court (from judges trump put in place in many cases), recounts, and audits that were done. Trumps own AG who always had trumps back (bill Barr) said that there was no election fraud.

Add in the fact that non trump republicans did well in the non presidential elections which, again using common sense and logic, would show that it wasn't a problem with fraud in the presidential election it was just that there were so many people who didn't like trump. Which again makes sense when you look at his approval rating and the coverage by all the media. Add in the fact that he lost the popular vote to Hillary for goodness sakes.

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