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fishonjazz said:
He shot 32% from the field in this series and 24% from 3.
27% from three in the first round
He is a good defender though. That is some pretty horrible offense though. Who is he playing instead of for us?

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Fish if you didn’t watch then you do t know. He made KD work for every damned inch of court space. He’s one of the main reasons they won for sure. I got tired just watching his ***. KD goes for 50 a game in the series if they don’t have Tuck.
 
fishonjazz said:
Agreed. So quin should have just told Rudy not to help.
Playing niang or tucker changes nothing. The only thing that changes anything is quin changing his philosophy and telling his players not to help. Which he wouldn't do if Rudy was in the game or if Rudy was out of the game. Quin wants his players to help each other when they get beat.

Can you imagine niang being in the game instead of Rudy and PG blows by bojan and is heading for an uncontested layup and niang sees that and comes to help. PG passes to an open 3 point shooter who sinks the 3. Quin calls a timeout and tells niang not to leave his man. Niang says "but coach, PG was going to have a wide open uncontested layup" and quin says " that's ok, just let him have the wide open layup but don't leave your man open outside"

Ya I can't imagine that ever happening either.

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You really had to watch... if you had watched you’d have zero questions. Tucker would have made PG cry.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Fish if you didn’t watch then you do t know. He made KD work for every damned inch of court space. He’s one of the main reasons they won for sure. I got tired just watching his ***. KD goes for 50 a game in the series if they don’t have Tuck.
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KD has played a lot of playoff games against teams without tucker
Has he ever averaged 50 a game?

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Handlogten's Heros said:
You really had to watch... if you had watched you’d have zero questions. Tucker would have made PG cry.
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I did watch. Tucker played tough D. KD set an all time NBA record for scoring in a game 7.
That's the thing. Today's nba has such good offensive players plus the fact that the rules and the officiating greatly favor the offensive players that good defenders get neutered somewhat. Strictly defensive players (especially non rim protectors) with no offensive game aren't as valuable as they should be and once were. 2 way players are where it's at imo.

And there really are two sides on a basketball court. Tucker is really bad on one side of the court. And it's fine to say I know nothing about basketball or tucker or whatever. But what about nba GM's? Do they also know nothing? Was there a huge bidding war for tuckers services? Was he one of the most sought after players in NBA history? I mean he is the key to everything. He would have single handedly got the jazz to the western conference finals. A player like that must be making about what, 30 million per year or something right?

So far in these playoffs he is literally having his worst playoffs off his entire career statistically. Now these stats don't show defense and maybe he is peaking defensively at age 36. I don't know. But like I said, his man set an NBA record for scoring last night..... And then was shut down after tucker fouled out. And the game today is just extremely favorable to offensive players.

He is averaging less points with worse shooting splits, less rebounds, less assists in these playoffs than in any other playoffs in his career. Maybe he isn't totally washed (38 minutes last night is impressive) but he certainly isn't peaking either.

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White Chocolate said:
BECAUSE RUDY WAS GIVING THEM A WIDE OPEN THREE IN THE CORNER EVERY ****ING POSSESSION.
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Okay chill... Everyone here wants to blame Rudy, which is the easy thing. But Reggie Jackson, Paul George, and Pat Beverley blew past the first line of defense every time in the 2nd half.

Our wing defenders couldn't keep them in front of them, which killed us, and put Gobert in a conundrum on every possession.

Its not usually to tend to leave shooters who teams think can't beat them. Just happened that Mann had the game of his life, and that came at the Jazz expense.

But the bigger problem was the Jazz forwards and guards not being able to keep up with the Clippers dribble penetration.
 
fishonjazz said:
I did watch. Tucker played tough D. KD set an all time NBA record for scoring in a game 7.
That's the thing. Today's nba has such good offensive players plus the fact that the rules and the officiating greatly favor the offensive players that good defenders get neutered somewhat. Strictly defensive players (especially non rim protectors) with no offensive game aren't as valuable as they should be and once were. 2 way players are where it's at imo.

And there really are two sides on a basketball court. Tucker is really bad on one side of the court. And it's fine to say I know nothing about basketball or tucker or whatever. But what about nba GM's? Do they also know nothing? Was there a huge bidding war for tuckers services? Was he one of the most sought after players in NBA history? I mean he is the key to everything. He would have single handedly got the jazz to the western conference finals. A player like that must be making about what, 30 million per year or something right?

So far in these playoffs he is literally having his worst playoffs off his entire career statistically. Now these stats don't show defense and maybe he is peaking defensively at age 36. I don't know. But like I said, his man set an NBA record for scoring last night..... And then was shut down after tucker fouled out. And the game today is just extremely favorable to offensive players.

He is averaging less points with worse shooting splits, less rebounds, less assists in these playoffs than in any other playoffs in his career. Maybe he isn't totally washed (38 minutes last night is impressive) but he certainly isn't peaking either.

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Fish... I ain’t trying to insult you. You don’t measure Tuck based off his stats... you just don’t. KD has never needed to score 50 a game so he has not tried... his usage was high after game 3... he needed to be super human every night for them to win and Tucker didn’t let him get there and made him earn it every time he did. There wasn’t a huge bidding war because GMs are dumb like us and thought he was washed because he wasn’t playing hard... if Tuck isn’t playing hard he’s garbage. He just wanted out... it’s the Blake Griffin effect.

side note it sucks that guys like Tucker and Bev can literally murder guys for 40
Minutes and get away with it. Can you imagine how quickly Royce fouls out doing that ****? It’s partly reputation and part referee intimidation. Nba officiating is a damn clown show.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Fish... I ain’t trying to insult you. You don’t measure Tuck based off his stats... you just don’t. KD has never needed to score 50 a game so he has not tried... his usage was high after game 3... he needed to be super human every night for them to win and Tucker didn’t let him get there and made him earn it every time he did. There wasn’t a huge bidding war because GMs are dumb like us and thought he was washed because he wasn’t playing hard... if Tuck isn’t playing hard he’s garbage. He just wanted out... it’s the Blake Griffin effect.

side note it sucks that guys like Tucker and Bev can literally murder guys for 40
Minutes and get away with it. Can you imagine how quickly Royce fouls out doing that ****? It’s partly reputation and part referee intimidation. Nba officiating is a damn clown show.
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KD left the greatest roster ever constructed for that. Hope he's enjoying it. Glad he's so woke.
 
NUMBERICA said:
KD left the greatest roster ever constructed for that. Hope he's enjoying it. Glad he's so woke.
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Ironic that going all in for Harden screwed them and their depth... with the way James **** on Houston and the new coach I just can’t feel bad for anyone involved there.

I’ll bet the Nba is so excited for Bucks Suns final... Giannis Euro steps versus CP mid rangers.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Fish... I ain’t trying to insult you. You don’t measure Tuck based off his stats... you just don’t. KD has never needed to score 50 a game so he has not tried... his usage was high after game 3... he needed to be super human every night for them to win and Tucker didn’t let him get there and made him earn it every time he did. There wasn’t a huge bidding war because GMs are dumb like us and thought he was washed because he wasn’t playing hard... if Tuck isn’t playing hard he’s garbage. He just wanted out... it’s the Blake Griffin effect.

side note it sucks that guys like Tucker and Bev can literally murder guys for 40
Minutes and get away with it. Can you imagine how quickly Royce fouls out doing that ****? It’s partly reputation and part referee intimidation. Nba officiating is a damn clown show.
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Agreed on NBA officiating. It's a huge joke.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ironic that going all in for Harden screwed them and their depth... with the way James **** on Houston and the new coach I just can’t feel bad for anyone involved there.

I’ll bet the Nba is so excited for Bucks Suns final... Giannis Euro steps versus CP mid rangers.
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I have a blind spot on the Suns. I just can't believe they're that good. I think the Clippers are still the most talented roster even without Kawhi and could very realistically get to the finals.

Clippers v Bucks sounds like a decent draw for the finals.
 
NUMBERICA said:
KD left the greatest roster ever constructed for that. Hope he's enjoying it. Glad he's so woke.
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But mah leggusee!

His legacy will forever be coattail rider who didn't have the stones to build something of his own.

Think about this, that OKC team had Durant, harden, and Westbrook. Wow.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I have a blind spot on the Suns. I just can't believe they're that good. I think the Clippers are still the most talented roster even without Kawhi and could very realistically get to the finals.

Clippers v Bucks sounds like a decent draw for the finals.
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Kawhi might be back... maybe? It’d make me feel better if the clips won... or worse... maybe I will watch something else.
 
LogGrad98 said:
But mah leggusee!

His legacy will forever be coattail rider who didn't have the stones to build something of his own.

Think about this, that OKC team had Durant, harden, and Westbrook. Wow.
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And had the Thunder decided to choose Harden over Westbrook (or even just Harden over KENDRICK ****ING PERKINS and tough out a year in the LT) then I think that team is a legit dynasty. Don't forget they also had Ibaka.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And had the Thunder decided to choose Harden over Westbrook (or even just Harden over KENDRICK ****ING PERKINS and tough out a year in the LT) then I think that team is a legit dynasty. Don't forget they also had Ibaka.
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I think they did choose Harden over Ibaka which is hilarious to think about.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And had the Thunder decided to choose Harden over Westbrook (or even just Harden over KENDRICK ****ING PERKINS and tough out a year in the LT) then I think that team is a legit dynasty. Don't forget they also had Ibaka.
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Yeah talk about short-sighted.
 
So now the Clippers cant make a shot??? PG looks about the same as game 3-6 against us but the rest have went back to average, go figure....
 
White Chocolate said:
I think they did choose Harden over Ibaka which is hilarious to think about.
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Nah, they figured they had enough scoring with westbrook and durant and needed ibaka defense so chose ibaka over harden. iirc
 
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