Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Also, remember when Ainge was the devil? Lol
Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz
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Bawse Dawg
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If we trade Mitchell I like the Ayton idea much more. We’d still awful. And we just turn Ayton into a better asset. Someone needs to take all the shots.
No idea why Ayton would be into that idea though.
No idea why Ayton would be into that idea though.
Why on earth would we want Ayton without Don. If we trade Don we better be in full tank mode. And who's going to trade for Ben Simmons bad back and $35m salary.
margodydek
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Seems like both us and BKN would want a haul of picks to go along with a move like this. I don’t think PHX can satisfy those demands. If this is legit, this has got to be a monster deal with another team (possibly more) involved to make everything work.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I’m not a fan of acquiring Ayton, but this does intrigue me a bit. Good way to add top talent as he doesn’t really move the needle as the possible #1 option on a bad team. Or use him to acquire other pieces. If we keep him, we end up with a top 5-10 pick in a strong draft, then the jazz still suck and keep their top ten pick in 2024. This team could be stacked with young talent in 2-3 years.
The Jazz Wonderbra
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I would prefer Ayton and Mikael Bridges... but that can't happen.
Ayton is a quality asset who will be on a new contract for 4 years and whose cost in a trade will be reduced due to the BYC rule.
It's a nice buy-low opportunity.
So get this, not only does Danny Ainge trade Royce O'Neale to BRK right before KD asks for a trade, he also gets updated trade offers from Miami and NYK for Mitchell right before KD asks for a trade. Now those trade proposals are leverage in his negotiations with BRK and PHX, and Ainge is going to take from both sides.
It's almost like he knew this was going to happen.
It's almost like he knew this was going to happen.
Yup. And interestingly enough, the standard that the deal will be judged against is the Gobert trade from today.
YoungJefe
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What do you think the structure of a deal would look like?
kcgar
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We wouldn’t be getting Nets pick. We would be getting the 76ers that the Nets own
The Jazz Wonderbra
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Would you do something like:
Durant to the Suns
Spida, Ayton (S&T), and Bogdonovic to Brooklyn
Ben Simmons and Mikal Bridges to Utah
Draft picks a plenty from Phoenix to both Brooklyn and Utah but probably more to Utah for taking on Benny boy.
I think the salaries matchup but the trade machine won't allow it due to Ayton still being on his rookie contract.
It really is Spida for Mikal (Who is incredible) for the jazz. Simmons (when healthy) would make this a killer deal. In the meantime he is a tank commander.
Durant to the Suns
Spida, Ayton (S&T), and Bogdonovic to Brooklyn
Ben Simmons and Mikal Bridges to Utah
Draft picks a plenty from Phoenix to both Brooklyn and Utah but probably more to Utah for taking on Benny boy.
I think the salaries matchup but the trade machine won't allow it due to Ayton still being on his rookie contract.
It really is Spida for Mikal (Who is incredible) for the jazz. Simmons (when healthy) would make this a killer deal. In the meantime he is a tank commander.
This one is weird? Why trade for Ayton if we will be sending Mitchell away? Seems like we would be losing on value ... Unless he comes incredibly cheap and is more of a flyer(salary filler) you take on high potential...
My only guess would be - it's because he needs to be in the trade to make salaries work and the main value for the Jazz is not Ayton but other pieces. Otherwise it sounds weird.
But in that case- what are the pieces that make it worth it for the Jazz? PHX picks become kind of worthless with KD going there.... maybe if they are unprotected and far enough in the future... like the ones from the Gobert trade?
LoPo
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Yall need to take a deep breath. Mitchell to Brooklyn ain't happening in a 3 team trade with Phoenix. Reasons why:
- Suns not moving Bridges, Booker, CP
- Brooklyn would have to move BS & KD
- Ayton ain't worth Don. Not close.
- Don ain't worth BS & KD for Brooklyn
- Suns don't have the assets for Simmons AND KD much less Don too
If Simmons (BS) gets dealt in a separate deal before this trade could happen which gets the assets to send to us, then this massive deal is possible. But BS doesn't have that kind of pull in a trade right now.
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- Suns not moving Bridges, Booker, CP
- Brooklyn would have to move BS & KD
- Ayton ain't worth Don. Not close.
- Don ain't worth BS & KD for Brooklyn
- Suns don't have the assets for Simmons AND KD much less Don too
If Simmons (BS) gets dealt in a separate deal before this trade could happen which gets the assets to send to us, then this massive deal is possible. But BS doesn't have that kind of pull in a trade right now.
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YoungJefe
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The only team that I think has enough assets is the Knicks.