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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

idiot said:
Tell me if I'm wrong as it's hard to keep up, but we don't have to get off anyone's money at this point, do we? (If the assumption of getting off money is to lessen the tax burden; we're not in the tax anymore are we?)
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Right... and Mike can be moved to the bench if Don wants to be pg. Next year worst case his deal is partially guaranteed so you can waive and stretch it if you need to use cap space.
 
LoPo said:
Kyrie is the first shoe that has to drop:

Lakers get Kyrie and Rudy Gay
Nets get Conley and Clarkson
Jazz get Westbrook and a 1st round pick

It's not sexy, but it does save us $30 million for next summer. And adds a 1st. I don't think we have to waive Westbrook either. Maybe we rehab his image a bit as the 6th man until the trade deadline. Or we just agree to a buyout where he takes less money like John Wall did. But $30 million for next summer and another 1st is big.
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Yes Westbrook would love to come off the bench for us... Jebus man.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's pretty obvious the Jazz are Setting a tank up when they don't make those moves that Brooklyn just did. If we were actually trying to put a competitive roster together we'd be giving out those kinds of deals to flyers to see if anyone sticks
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We are at 13 roster spots already. I think we’d rather have the flexibility vs signing some randoms.
 
LoPo said:
That's why I said he doesn't have to be waived, but that would be on him.
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It’d be a buyout and he wouldn’t even report… he might let us wait until after the trade deadline in case we need his contract for another trade. Westbrook ain’t a come off the bench guy. He will need to get waived and hear every team in the league say no to him just like Melo did before he accepts a lesser role.
 
fishonjazz said:
If we did have to i would still rather not and just keep him until he expires


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For sure. He’s a good dude and can help us off the bench or in a smaller role. The only guy that needs to be off the roster is Gay… that should just be a buyout though. Keep him around so you can use his contract if you want and then buy him out before the season starts if nothing pops up.
 
LoPo said:
Kyrie is the first shoe that has to drop:

Lakers get Kyrie and Rudy Gay
Nets get Conley and Clarkson
Jazz get Westbrook and a 1st round pick

It's not sexy, but it does save us $30 million for next summer. And adds a 1st. I don't think we have to waive Westbrook either. Maybe we rehab his image a bit as the 6th man until the trade deadline. Or we just agree to a buyout where he takes less money like John Wall did. But $30 million for next summer and another 1st is big.
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Jazz aren't going to just give away Jordan Clarkson. ( lol )
 
NUMBERICA said:
Especially if they keep him to start the season and the most recent sample isn’t him gassed on a team that hates itself.
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Right... and with most the pg situations currently settled (except maybe Brooklyn) you just wait for an opportunity. Even if we move Don, Mike won't be so good that we are winning too much to destroy the tank.

I think we are legitimately open to anything. Its a little scary tbh, but Russilo on the BS pod said about Danny "he's always seems like the most patient guy on the call". I think that is good. I think DL was also patient but I felt like he was less active than we currently are.

I think he will make the best deal and I don't buy that he is 100% building around Donovan. That is the smart narrative to sell to Woj. At some point in the next couple weeks we will have to pick a slight direction to plan for the upcoming year. At this point not a lot would surprise me.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Right... and with most the pg situations currently settled (except maybe Brooklyn) you just wait for an opportunity. Even if we move Don, Mike won't be so good that we are winning too much to destroy the tank.

I think we are legitimately open to anything. Its a little scary tbh, but Russilo on the BS pod said about Danny "he's always seems like the most patient guy on the call". I think that is good. I think DL was also patient but I felt like he was less active than we currently are.

I think he will make the best deal and I don't buy that he is 100% building around Donovan. That is the smart narrative to sell to Woj. At some point in the next couple weeks we will have to pick a slight direction to plan for the upcoming year. At this point not a lot would surprise me.
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That was such a good podcast episode I listened to every second of it.

Bill Simmons legit thinks the Gobert trade could be the worst trade in the last 30 years and all of the other trades he mentioned feeling like this were trash. Sounds like a good omen to me.
 
Vanderbilt was a good addition and is a sneaky asset we can use in a deal... functional rotation player on a small deal. If we did want Collins for example I could see Bogey and Vanderbilt being enough to entice them. I'm not sure Vandy will be awesome as a center unless we add some bigger wings.

Danny has just done and awesome job so far. We now have so many contracts and players we can use to sell off, reconfigure, make trades work.
 
Elizah Huge said:
That was such a good podcast episode I listened to every second of it.

Bill Simmons legit thinks the Gobert trade could be the worst trade in the last 30 years and all of the other trades he mentioned feeling like this were trash. Sounds like a good omen to me.
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He sounded just legit pissed off and annoyed. It was very satisfying. He will bring it up 100 plus times this year. He was also pissed when that we got Danny for nothing when he has literally never brought it up until we hired Hardy and Danny made a good trade. Sorry if the snake bit ya homey... he's been out here doing this **** for you since like 2000 and now you got the wrong end of the smallest transaction and are just up in arms... Will Hardy got him triggered.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Vanderbilt was a good addition and is a sneaky asset we can use in a deal... functional rotation player on a small deal. If we did want Collins for example I could see Bogey and Vanderbilt being enough to entice them. I'm not sure Vandy will be awesome as a center unless we add some bigger wings.

Danny has just done and awesome job so far. We now have so many contracts and players we can use to sell off, reconfigure, make trades work.
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Donovan
Beverley
Collins
Ayton

What seed is this core in the playoffs?
 
Elizah Huge said:
That was such a good podcast episode I listened to every second of it.

Bill Simmons legit thinks the Gobert trade could be the worst trade in the last 30 years and all of the other trades he mentioned feeling like this were trash. Sounds like a good omen to me.
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I’ve been going through some other blockbuster trades and, yo, this Gobert haul is UP THERE. Harden, for example, fetched only three unprotected firsts with three swaps from a team that was supposed to be a perennial contender. The Jazz basically got 4 for Gobert, another 1st just used (Kessler), and more FROM A BOTTOM THREE FRANCHISE.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Donovan
Beverley
Collins
Ayton

What seed is this core in the playoffs?
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Don
Beverley
Vanderbilt
Collins
Ayton

We need some shooting added, but that's a team I don't think a lot of teams want to play. Playoff team but probably not a home playoff team next season.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I’ve been going through some other blockbuster trades and, yo, this Gobert haul is UP THERE. Harden, for example, fetched only three unprotected firsts with three swaps from a team that was supposed to be a perennial contender. The Jazz basically got 4 for Gobert, another 1st just used (Kessler), and more FROM A BOTTOM THREE FRANCHISE.
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Plus a 1st round pick from 2021 who the jury is still out on. think we all were hoping for at least 2 picks but 4 unprotected plus a pick swap that many years in the future is just insane. I can see this ending up very badly for the Wolves. That isn’t even counting all the players we got too. They made a joke that they’re like we’re keeping these 4 guys you can have whoever else you want to make the salary match lmao.

In 2024-25 they will have 93M combined into just KAT and Gobert and that is before Edwards extension. They will not have much flexibility at all and right where things can start going downhill is when we will start collecting their picks. It’s ****ing glorious.
 
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