What's new
By:
Filters

Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Coach Ellis said:
Grimes, Toppin, Fournier and a boatload of picks would be a great scenario IMO.

Bolmaro - JB
Grimes - NAW
Beasley - Fournier
Toppin - Vanderbilt - Gay
Kessler - Azibuke

Trade Bogey, Clarkson, Beverley and Conley for additional assets. Whoever comes back in those deals can compete for a role and minutes as well. Try to flip Beasley, Vanderbilt, Gay and possibly Fournier at the deadline if possible.

I’d try to avoid taking on more that 2 years of bad salary. We want any incoming contracts to end going into the 2024 offseason so they can open up a max slot and hope there’s someone worth filling it with.
Click to expand...
A team worth cheering for!
 
sip said:
I think people are starting to overrate the knicks future picks. A lot of posters have said that the knicks are a trash organization and that has certainly been the case in the past but I think they finally made the right hire with Leon Rose. He has done a great job over the last few years building a strong asset base of future picks and solid young players with nice upside. With him in charge and adding Mitchell and Brunson I think we will see the knicks consistently in that upper tier of east teams within the next 2 years. At that point I think they also become a solid free agent destination. With that being the case I think the knicks 23 pick may end up being the most valuable of any future knick picks. If we are going to ask for 5 picks then I want the 23 and 27 knick picks unprotected and then the Dallas, Detroit and Washington future picks. I would expect the Dallas pick to convey this year which would give us 5 first round picks in the 23 draft.
Click to expand...

They don’t have any cap space and won’t have any for the foreseeable future.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Let’s do it then. Think of it this way if the Knicks called us right now and said take Randle off our hands and we will give you two 1sts would we say no?
Click to expand...
Am I holding their draft picks? Because if I am, I want them to choke on that contract. The only things they have left to give is the protected stuff from other teams.
 
Elizah Huge said:
They don’t have any cap space and won’t have any for the foreseeable future.
Click to expand...
It isn't that hard for teams to create cap room. Randle is the only contract that may be difficult to move but if he can play even close to the way he did a couple years ago then that isn't a bad contract at all.
 
fishonjazz said:
I actually had fun rooting for losses during the season that culminated in the Exum pick. Only thing I truly hated about that season was Corbins unwillingness to embrace the tank and develop our young guys with more minutes rather than play Richard Jefferson, jamaal tinley and other vets so much.
If he would have embraced the tank then maybe we end up with embiid instead of exum.
Buy ya, you are right. We will get behind the tank. At least I know I will. Im gonna be actively rooting for losses next year and look foward to it.
Click to expand...
Rooting for a listing season and ending up with Dante Exum is the reason I don't root for losing seasons anymore.
 
sip said:
It isn't that hard for teams to create cap room. Randle is the only contract that may be difficult to move but if he can play even close to the way he did a couple years ago then that isn't a bad contract at all.
Click to expand...

They would still need to move at least 20M more. They will also have no draft picks.
 
Is it possible for the Jazz to not take matching salary back? If a third team were involved could the Jazz just take the players they want or do the Jazz have to take matching salary back?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
homeytennis said:
What if Danny says to hell with it. The Jazz are keeping Donovan and the current roster and are trying to win?
Click to expand...
Kind of late to do that. This current roster is borderline playoffs, if that. I don't see us randomly pulling out a winning roster this deep into FA. By winning I mean being good enough to be dangerous come playoff time.
 
mongoose01 said:
Is it possible for the Jazz to not take matching salary back? If a third team were involved could the Jazz just take the players they want or do the Jazz have to take matching salary back?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

The 3rd team would have to have cap space to take other salary in and would want to be compensated. We are going to become the team who takes salary and is compensated not the other way around.
 
I just brought this up in the other thread and I’ll throw it out here too.

We should be try to take Westbrook back in the same Knicks deal. It would allow us to take back more total salary because we are sending a higher total out. We can add Beverley and Bogey in the deal and take Westbrook back. That doesn’t work on it’s own but in a 3-way it does. Lakers save almost 15M so they’d definitely be more likely to give us their 27/29 1sts and a 28 pick swap.
 
Also, maybe the Lakers want Conley instead of Beverley which is fine. Miami is interested in Beverley and I’m sure we could grab either their 2027 or 2029 1st if we took Robinson’s salary back.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I just brought this up in the other thread and I’ll throw it out here too.

We should be try to take Westbrook back in the same Knicks deal. It would allow us to take back more total salary because we are sending a higher total out. We can add Beverley and Bogey in the deal and take Westbrook back. That doesn’t work on it’s own but in a 3-way it does. Lakers save almost 15M so they’d definitely be more likely to give us their 27/29 1sts and a 28 pick swap.
Click to expand...
We have to watch the tax a little… saving them 5-10M while taking the huge headache off their hand and giving them a few rotation players should be worth those picks. Those picks are actually likely better than the Knicks picks and in 5-7 years tbh.

Bogey/Bev/JC and we will do a NAW for THT if it helps em a little.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Top