We hit on our lottery pick this year and I could easily see us competing for a play-in game in 2024.
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We hit on our lottery pick this year and I could easily see us competing for a play-in game in 2024.
We aren't even close to starting from 0. I think this current team is better than the team we had the second half of last year.
OKC/HOU are in year 3 of their rebuilds this year. If they make the play in year 4 that will be a feat.
Even if you “hit” on a lottery pick there’s a long way to making the playoffs. Young players, even if they are promising, rarely deliver lots of wins. Even if you have a superstar player you are not guaranteed to make the playoffs in the West without a good supporting class.
If the Jazz make it in 2024 it will be some likely take some combination of breakout seasons, generational draft hit, and cashing in on future assets to win earlier.
It’s not impossible, the Jazz did so before. But it took Hayward having a breakout season and Rudy Gobert to get there. So unless we have a major breakout season from Sexton/Lauri and a Gobert waiting in the wings I don’t see it happening.
Houston and OKC didn’t have near as many good players to start with as we do. OKC has Shai but they are blatantly tanking by having him sit on the bench, etc. They drafted Giddey who is great but he wasn’t a difference maker year 1. Now Chet is out for the rest of the year. Houston had no talent besides Wood who they just traded for a 1st. They drafted Green and Jabari. We are starting with good players.
I think our trajectory could be closer to Memphis where we draft someone like Ja (best case scenario obviously) and compete for the play-in the following year. This would mean drafting someone like Wemby or Scoot.
Avery
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DA's a snake oil salesmen. Don't listen to him to yet, read between the lines.
- We were more than happy to jettison cornerstones for long-term picks
- DA is never going to say he wants to tank as players don't want to be seen as 'poor', but if they really wanted to win now, they would have traded Gobert/Spida for other high-caliber players to win now
- If he likes the 2024 draft more and wants to compete faster, he's going to have to push those unprotected picks later on higher up
- We were more than happy to jettison cornerstones for long-term picks
- DA is never going to say he wants to tank as players don't want to be seen as 'poor', but if they really wanted to win now, they would have traded Gobert/Spida for other high-caliber players to win now
- If he likes the 2024 draft more and wants to compete faster, he's going to have to push those unprotected picks later on higher up
We also forget that from 2025 on we have essentially 11 unprotected 1sts (1 is top-5 protected) to work with. We could trade for literally anyone we wanted to that became available.
Getting picks in those deals instead of more players makes it so DA can be more selective in which players (and when) he adds to our core, by trading those picks.
Ainge has a history of doing short re-builds. I also wouldn't say they're starting from 0, they have some good young talent already on the roster that can be developed.
homeytennis
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OK what happens if the Jazz start the season on fire? There are enough savvy vets on the roster that it could happen. Do they try and squelch that or just keep going?
I have a feeling the schedule will take care of that for them...the first month or two is pretty brutal.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Again can we trust anything that DA is saying? For all, we know he is just trying to pinch some better assets out of his current negotiations. I just wish it would happen already so we can see what the Jazz are going to have going into the season.
Three names of mention just off the top of my head: Rudy Gobert, Donovan Mitchell, Lebron James.
A girl can dream.
TheStormofWar
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Reading between the lines on this, The Plan is probably:
• Suck for two years. This mean jettisoning anyone considered a vet that can have a positive impact on the team.
• Get our pick back from OKC somehow and clear out long term salary as opportunities present itself.
• Evaluate who on our young talent is worth a snot and invest in them.
• Use the capspace, remaining young players, and picks to build around the new core, including acquiring an all-star when the time comes up.
Or I'm just projecting my thoughts onto it.
• Suck for two years. This mean jettisoning anyone considered a vet that can have a positive impact on the team.
• Get our pick back from OKC somehow and clear out long term salary as opportunities present itself.
• Evaluate who on our young talent is worth a snot and invest in them.
• Use the capspace, remaining young players, and picks to build around the new core, including acquiring an all-star when the time comes up.
Or I'm just projecting my thoughts onto it.
gomretat
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Well said. 1-2 year rebuilds dont happen unless you get really lucky and are the exception to the norm. Hope we get very lucky.