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Rest Easy, The Jazz Will Be Awful
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Douchebag K
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yeah any lurking fears i had that we might be too good are G A W N We're gonna be a superb mess
#Wemby
#Wemby
I think we're competitive for a bottom-5 record. Between a bunch of guys being inexperienced and a hodge podge of vets who are playing outside their normal role, I think we're good.
I'm not sure if we are.
Are we deeper than Houston? Yes
Are we more talented than Houston? No
I just think our complete lack of shot creation is going to be super tough to overcome.
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Sure, this is certainly true.
But how much better? This is a team of players who cant create shots and don't move the ball well. What happens if this team ever gets in a "clutch" situation?
Probably better than last year’s team. Certainly couldn’t be any worse.
It came be
rjfan
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When I talked before over not seeing us far from the top picks, it was pretty much down to the way I see it. We're problably too talented (as not 100% bottomed out in terms of outgoing players) to being trashed out by 20 mid third every game, but even when it should be somewhat close (as that team shouldn't be expected to be blowing no one out of the water), neither our defense or offense should be near elite enough to be able carry us to victory on any consistent basis, neither collective or individually.
And thank god it is that way, we're tanking, we should lose as many games as posible for a top pick (even if not need to settle for a worst record, 4th to 6th already gets you really good chances at the lottery)
The Jazz's current roster isn't too different from the Houston Rockets' roster after they blew up in 20/21. That Rockets team won at just under a 20-win pace. I don't think we're that bad, but the Jazz are hollowed out with a mix of shards from the previous team and a few middling young prospects.
That Rockets team had John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Kelly Olynyk, Eric Gordon, Danuel House, Ben McLemore, Avery Bradley and Christian Wood. The only young talent of note was Kenyon Martin Jr., JaeSean Tate and Kevin Porter Jr. In total, 30 players were on that roster at one time or another. It was a clearinghouse of old vets that other teams could pick up.
That Rockets team had John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Kelly Olynyk, Eric Gordon, Danuel House, Ben McLemore, Avery Bradley and Christian Wood. The only young talent of note was Kenyon Martin Jr., JaeSean Tate and Kevin Porter Jr. In total, 30 players were on that roster at one time or another. It was a clearinghouse of old vets that other teams could pick up.
I'm struggling to understand what "better" or "worse" means in the context of this upcoming season.
I looked earlier, and the regular prices are actually up compared to last season. I have a hard time with the idea of spending $150 for a decent seat only to root for the Jazz to lose. There isn't even a young player on this team that I'd look forward to seeing play.
I got great seats for cheap the year after Stockton/Malone. Fun season.
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Here's where I think this is going....
** At this stage, the Jazz are just sifting through players to see if they like any of them.
** Markkanen is a starting-level player, and he's still just 25. I think the Jazz will keep him longer term.
** Collin Sexton will probably end up being a backup on the team the Jazz want to build, or he may be an asset to be traded in the future once he gets further along his development curve.
** Jared Vanderbilt is a culture-setter with his energy and effort, and I think he's part of the team's plans in the near-term at least.
** Jazz will keep NAW, THT, Agbaji and Bolmaro as development projects, though none are likely to be untouchable in future trades.
** It's not clear to me how much the Jazz really like Walker Kessler and whether he fits what they want from the center position. It's possible that he was a throw-in in the Gobert trade. He could be developed and moved within a couple years. He doesn't project to be good enough to be a long-term staple.
** Jazz will try to trade away Conley, Clarkson, Beasley and Olynyk. None of them will be around on the future team and none are really systemically that important. Conley at least brings some order to the chaos in the meantime.
** Jazz will dump Rudy Gay if they have to.
** At this stage, the Jazz are just sifting through players to see if they like any of them.
** Markkanen is a starting-level player, and he's still just 25. I think the Jazz will keep him longer term.
** Collin Sexton will probably end up being a backup on the team the Jazz want to build, or he may be an asset to be traded in the future once he gets further along his development curve.
** Jared Vanderbilt is a culture-setter with his energy and effort, and I think he's part of the team's plans in the near-term at least.
** Jazz will keep NAW, THT, Agbaji and Bolmaro as development projects, though none are likely to be untouchable in future trades.
** It's not clear to me how much the Jazz really like Walker Kessler and whether he fits what they want from the center position. It's possible that he was a throw-in in the Gobert trade. He could be developed and moved within a couple years. He doesn't project to be good enough to be a long-term staple.
** Jazz will try to trade away Conley, Clarkson, Beasley and Olynyk. None of them will be around on the future team and none are really systemically that important. Conley at least brings some order to the chaos in the meantime.
** Jazz will dump Rudy Gay if they have to.
