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The Thriller said:
Again, how is this any different than your typical Republican voter and/or politician?

Qanon? Check.
Anti mask/vax? Check.
Worships Trump? Check.
Believes in the Big Lie? Check.
Even the racism and anti-semiticism is becoming normalized.
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But they don't have to be Republican (tm) in order to be a conspiracy nut who has bought into QAnon.
I'm about to blow your brains all the way out of your brains right now. The entire world does not rotate around R vs D.
I'll give you the rest of the week to recover from this bombshell.
 
The Thriller said:
Again, how is this any different than your typical Republican voter and/or politician?

Qanon? Check.
Anti mask/vax? Check.
Worships Trump? Check.
Believes in the Big Lie? Check.
Even the racism and anti-semiticism is becoming normalized.
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I left this site about two years ago due to all sorts of things, but especially because my life got very busy. I came back tonight because I am blown away by this Jazz team and far more interested than I ever expected to be. But of course the first thing I notice is that the political nincompoopery is still alive and well around here. It's pretty funny that yet again the left wing media and all of their fanboys seem to have fallen head over heels for a story that is falling apart as the actual facts come to light. The attack is an embarrassment for our country and a sign of failing systems, but it doesn't look like the attacker is very similar to the person that we were initially told that he was. Among other inconsistencies, the initial 911 call indicated that he was an acquaintance of Paul Pelosi. The police have so far been unwilling to release the body cam video that could clear up a lot about the altercation that was, by all accounts, quite unusual. The attacker has been described by people who know him as a mentally deranged drug addict. He lives in a dilapidated school bus that's decorated by a Black Lives Matter flag and a Gay Pride flag. His social media presence appears to have spontaneously appeared on the same day that the attack occurred. That is just a small sampling of the inconsistencies in this story. It might be a good idea to give investigators some time to collect the facts before jumping to conclusions. And It might be a really good idea for investigators to be transparent by releasing the body cam video, etc, because there is a very good reason that the public is not nearly as trusting of the narrative being pushed by the media as they once were. Will this story be the next in a long string of errors, all misreported in the same direction, that we have become so accustomed to? Covington High School, Jussie Smollett, Hunter Biden laptop, The Dossier, etc, etc, etc. When will it all end? I used to think there had to be a limit to the insanity, but I think I have long ago been proven absolutely wrong on that count. In the mean time, I hope that Paul Pelosi makes a full recovery.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I left this site about two years ago due to all sorts of things, but especially because my life got very busy. I came back tonight because I am blown away by this Jazz team and far more interested than I ever expected to be. But of course the first thing I notice is that the political nincompoopery is still alive and well around here. It's pretty funny that yet again the left wing media and all of their fanboys seem to have fallen head over heels for a story that is falling apart as the actual facts come to light. The attack is an embarrassment for our country and a sign of failing systems, but it doesn't look like the attacker is very similar to the person that we were initially told that he was. Among other inconsistencies, the initial 911 call indicated that he was an acquaintance of Paul Pelosi. The police have so far been unwilling to release the body cam video that could clear up a lot about the altercation that was, by all accounts, quite unusual. The attacker has been described by people who know him as a mentally deranged drug addict. He lives in a dilapidated school bus that's decorated by a Black Lives Matter flag and a Gay Pride flag. His social media presence appears to have spontaneously appeared on the same day that the attack occurred. That is just a small sampling of the inconsistencies in this story. It might be a good idea to give investigators some time to collect the facts before jumping to conclusions. And It might be a really good idea for investigators to be transparent by releasing the body cam video, etc, because there is a very good reason that the public is not nearly as trusting of the narrative being pushed by the media as they once were. Will this story be the next in a long string of errors, all misreported in the same direction, that we have become so accustomed to? Covington High School, Jussie Smollett, Hunter Biden laptop, The Dossier, etc, etc, etc. When will it all end? I used to think there had to be a limit to the insanity, but I think I have long ago been proven absolutely wrong on that count. In the mean time, I hope that Paul Pelosi makes a full recovery.
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Charges have been filed. Come back once you've examined the discovery and back up your claims. It will become a matter of public record.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
This is a misinformation now and ignore what kind of nonsense we floated later situation for MAGA dupes. Facts will be known relatively soon. It is important for MAGA to feed their dupes an alternative reality now so that once their attention focuses elsewhere and the facts of this case become better known and a matter of public record they are all up in arms over the next wave of disinformation they are consuming.

I'd like a historical record of the claims of the MAGA universe in real time compared to where they stand on those issues today. This is like an ADHD nightmare of pushing easily disproven narratives and then forgetting what claims we were actually shouting from the rooftops a few weeks ago once the information is more easily confirmed or discredited.

MAGA has a very poor track record of backing up these misinformation narratives in the long term. The fact is they don't care.

I might make a little hobby of examining Joe Bags final claims before he disappeared for two years and seeing if he's still interested in speaking in support of those claims today.
 
Gameface said:
If he was a grindr date gone wrong that info should be part of discovery and available to the public.
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Stunning, or actually NOT, to see Elon Musk tweet a link to the article, to Hillary Clinton(!!), that spread all that nonsense. He has over 100 million followers. Hours later, without any explanation, he deletes it. If this guy was responsible, he would tweet an apology to those millions of followers, many of whom must have run with that crap. And he does this within days of taking control of Twitter. The guy will be as bad as Trump on Twitter…

www.independent.co.uk

Elon Musk shares lurid conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi hammer attack

Billionaire peddled the conspiracy theory on Twitter just days after he completed his takeover of the social media platform – before deleting the post hours later
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I left this site about two years ago due to all sorts of things, but especially because my life got very busy. I came back tonight because I am blown away by this Jazz team and far more interested than I ever expected to be. But of course the first thing I notice is that the political nincompoopery is still alive and well around here. It's pretty funny that yet again the left wing media and all of their fanboys seem to have fallen head over heels for a story that is falling apart as the actual facts come to light. The attack is an embarrassment for our country and a sign of failing systems, but it doesn't look like the attacker is very similar to the person that we were initially told that he was. Among other inconsistencies, the initial 911 call indicated that he was an acquaintance of Paul Pelosi. The police have so far been unwilling to release the body cam video that could clear up a lot about the altercation that was, by all accounts, quite unusual. The attacker has been described by people who know him as a mentally deranged drug addict. He lives in a dilapidated school bus that's decorated by a Black Lives Matter flag and a Gay Pride flag. His social media presence appears to have spontaneously appeared on the same day that the attack occurred. That is just a small sampling of the inconsistencies in this story. It might be a good idea to give investigators some time to collect the facts before jumping to conclusions. And It might be a really good idea for investigators to be transparent by releasing the body cam video, etc, because there is a very good reason that the public is not nearly as trusting of the narrative being pushed by the media as they once were. Will this story be the next in a long string of errors, all misreported in the same direction, that we have become so accustomed to? Covington High School, Jussie Smollett, Hunter Biden laptop, The Dossier, etc, etc, etc. When will it all end? I used to think there had to be a limit to the insanity, but I think I have long ago been proven absolutely wrong on that count. In the mean time, I hope that Paul Pelosi makes a full recovery.
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Seriously, welcome back! Sounds like you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Why not just examine that “news outlet” that first spread that nonsense? There’s good reason why it has absolute zero credibility.

smdp.com

Musk tweets link to an unfounded Santa Monica based conspiracy theory

CHRISTOPHER RUGABER, Associated Press Elon Musk on Sunday tweeted a link to an unfounded rumor about the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, just days after Musk’s purchase of Twitter fueled concerns that the social media platform would no longer seek to limit misinformation and hate...
smdp.com smdp.com

www.snopes.com

False Rumor Claims Paul Pelosi Brought Attacker Home from Gay Bar

The Santa Monica Observer, the website that originally pushed this false rumor, later updated its story.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com

A look at the history of this “news” source. It all originated with the Santa Monica Observer, Joe. Are you sure you want to hang your reliance for info on this outlet?:

www.latimes.com

The dubious history of the Santa Monica Observer, the outlet behind that false Paul Pelosi story

Elon Musk's now-deleted tweet of an unfounded story about Paul Pelosi sparked controversy over how false information propagates on Twitter.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com

“Last year, a Times editorial said the Observer was “notorious for publishing false news,” including claims in 2016 that Hillary Clinton was actually dead and that a body double debated Donald Trump. Months after the Clinton claim, the news site also incorrectly reported that Trump had appointed Kanye West to a high-level position in the Interior Department. More recently, the Observer falsely reported that Bill Gates was responsible for a polio epidemic, according to the editorial”.
 
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Gameface said:
This is a misinformation now and ignore what kind of nonsense we floated later situation for MAGA dupes. Facts will be known relatively soon. It is important for MAGA to feed their dupes an alternative reality now so that once their attention focuses elsewhere and the facts of this case become better known and a matter of public record they are all up in arms over the next wave of disinformation they are consuming.

I'd like a historical record of the claims of the MAGA universe in real time compared to where they stand on those issues today. This is like an ADHD nightmare of pushing easily disproven narratives and then forgetting what claims we were actually shouting from the rooftops a few weeks ago once the information is more easily confirmed or discredited.

MAGA has a very poor track record of backing up these misinformation narratives in the long term. The fact is they don't care.

I might make a little hobby of examining Joe Bags final claims before he disappeared for two years and seeing if he's still interested in speaking in support of those claims today.
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Ya the famous "dossier" we heard about so much that was supposed to be some big bombshell. Well John Durham was appointed by William Barr to investigate and he spent two years on the investigation. What did he come up with? Nothingburger.
 
Gameface said:
Charges have been filed. Come back once you've examined the discovery and back up your claims. It will become a matter of public record.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Yep


  • A federal affidavit debunks far-right conspiracy theories about the attack on Paul Pelosi.
  • Twitter's new owner Elon Musk tweeted then deleted a baseless report about a dispute with a male prostitute.
  • Pelosi told authorities he had never seen the suspect before, according to the affidavit.
Since Paul Pelosi, 82, was attacked in his home with a hammer on Friday, wild and baseless theories of a homosexual tryst have been making the rounds in conservative forums, even though Pelosi told authorities he had never seen the suspect before, according to the affidavit. Right-wingers are also raising suspicions about the police account, the timing of the attack, and the attacker's background with a nudist group.

"It starts out with these weirdos, and then next thing you know, it's Ted Cruz, and then it's Marge Greene and then it's 50 people in Congress saying it by tomorrow," said criminal defense attorney Ron Filipkowski, who tracks extremists on social media. "It's the case with all these conspiracies."

DePape told authorities that he broke in with a hammer through a glass door, according to the affidavit, disproving theories that the glass was broken from the inside. The attacker entered the bedroom where Paul Pelosi was sleeping and said he wanted to talk to "Nancy," according to the affidavit.

DePape told authorities that he was planning to break "her kneecaps" if she lied, though it's unclear in the affidavit about what.

Elon Musk, in a now-deleted tweet, said there might be "more to the story" and shared a link to a baseless report in the conspiracy-peddling Santa Monica Observer with the headline, "The Awful Truth: Paul Pelosi Was Drunk Again, And In a Dispute With a Male Prostitute Early Friday Morning." Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a controversial Republican of Georgia referred to Pelosi's attacker as his "friend" and backed up Musk, tweeting that "the media is the source of misinformation."

Musk's message and link had been retweeted more than 30,000 times and liked more than 110,000 times before being deleted less than an hour later, according to The New York Times.

Filipkowski tweeted on Sunday that Musk's post was being reposted by QAnon and right-wing accounts on multiple social media platforms.

"The owner of Tesla and Twitter posted it. The dark corners of the internet are now mainstreamed," he wrote.

San Francisco district attorney Brooke Jenkins tried to correct the record on Sunday. "We have nothing to suggest that these two men knew each other prior to this incident," Jenkins said

Jenkins also said the attacker was looking for Nancy Pelosi and that reports that a third person was at the home were untrue.


The GQP is the party of qanon, misinformation, lies, (false) conspiracy theories, fake news, and greed.
 
Gameface said:
But they don't have to be Republican (tm) in order to be a conspiracy nut who has bought into QAnon.
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Good thing his conspiracies weren't limited to Qanon:
Qanon? Check.
Anti mask/vax? Check.
Worships Trump? Check.
Believes in the Big Lie? Check.
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The man who allegedly attacked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband early Friday posted memes and conspiracy theories on Facebook about Covid vaccines, the 2020 election and the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and an acquaintance told CNN that he seemed “out of touch with reality.”
Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are what ever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read.

DePape also posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!” and “Global Elites Plan To Take Control Of YOUR Money! (Revealed)”

Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching,” falsely indicating that Floyd died of a drug overdose.

He also posted content about the “Great Reset”– the sprawling conspiracy theory that global elites are using coronavirus to usher in a new world order in which they gain more power and oppress the masses. And he complained that politicians making promises to try to win votes “are offering you bribes in exchange for your further enslavement.”

Most of the public posts on DePape’s Facebook page were from 2021. In earlier years, DePape also posted long screeds about religion, including claims that “Jesus is the anti christ.” None of the public posts appeared to mention Pelosi.
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Are you really going to argue that a man who is:
  • Into Q
  • Into Anti-Vax nonsense
  • Into the Big Lie
  • Into RW conspiracies about GF, Great Reset, and "Global Elites"
DOESN'T represent most Republicans in 2022? Have you heard any Republicans campaign this cycle? How about former leaders and prominent media figures? Ever heard of JD Vance, Blake Masters, Kari Lake, MTG, Tucker Carlson, or Donald Trump?
I'm about to blow your brains all the way out of your brains right now. The entire world does not rotate around R vs D.
I'll give you the rest of the week to recover from this bombshell.
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Is this really what you wanted to say in a thread about inflammatory rhetoric and political violence?
 
The Thriller said:
Again, how is this any different than your typical Republican voter and/or politician?

Qanon? Check.
Anti mask/vax? Check.
Worships Trump? Check.
Believes in the Big Lie? Check.
Even the racism and anti-semiticism is becoming normalized.
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My dad, and many other people I know are what I would call typical republican voters. Here is how most of the "other" republicans I know stand on these issues:

Qanon? Finds it ridiculous
Anti mask/vax? Always wears his mask, fully up to date on vaccines, didn't let anyone unvaccinated in his house for over a year and a half.
Worships Trump? Hates Trump.
Believes in the Big Lie? Believes anyone who believes the big lie is a moron.
Even the racism and anti-semiticism is becoming normalized. Doesn't have a racist bone in his body.

I think this is true of most republicans, although that percentage is up for debate. I think what we hear and see the most are the vocal minority making a lot of noise. Then there is another minority, people like my dad, who are firmly on the other side of this argument. The biggest concern is what falls in the middle, the silent majority. Those who hold some of these beliefs, or at least still want Trump, because of reasons or whatever, or the old holdovers of we ain't votin' no lib-ruhl in ta da whitehouse where really they are just clueless about any of the topics in question, or any stance really, other than vague racist notions and the belief that we have to protect the country from being over-run by socialists or what-have-you. I believe the majority falls in this last camp. They aren't out campaigning for Trump and making all the noise, that is a minority of repubs. They aren't firmly against it all and want to see something...anything...in its place. They are riding the edge, and bolstering the numbers, in the name of some weird nostalgic belief in the good old days when people stayed in their place and they didn't have to have all these gays and blacks and gender-what? thrown in their faces all the time. Stuck back in the 50's when everyone knew their place in society and it seemed, to them at least, to be stable and secure, whereas now it is bordering, from their point of view at least, on anarchy. This is where the real problem lies, imo, those who are so entrenched and uninformed that they just tick all the "R" boxes because they are so disconnected they don't have a clue who or what most of the things they are voting for actually are.

To be fair, I believe that constitutes a majority of voters no matter where they fall on the political spectrum. We are falling into the trap Socrates (as Plato) decried, the fact that an uninformed electorate will vote in demagogues over anything else, and boy do we have a LOT of demagogues in our politics. One could argue that is nearly all we have. Few, if any, are really concerned for the well-being of the country, and even fewer will put that above what they need to do to get themselves or their party re-elected, all the while doing nothing to improve anything, yet patting themselves on the back that the people still love them, and of course they mean well, while watching Rome burn from the balcony of their ivory towers. That is the sad state of politics in America today.

So no, I do not believe the average republican holds those beliefs. I think the truly average republican (and democrat for that matter) is so uninformed on the true issues that they just tick the boxes next to their respective political/religious adherence. Because in lots of ways, especially for the, often willfully, uninformed, it is more a religion to believe in than a political position to be thought about critically to make an informed choice.
 
Gameface said:
This is a misinformation now and ignore what kind of nonsense we floated later situation for MAGA dupes. Facts will be known relatively soon. It is important for MAGA to feed their dupes an alternative reality now so that once their attention focuses elsewhere and the facts of this case become better known and a matter of public record they are all up in arms over the next wave of disinformation they are consuming.

I'd like a historical record of the claims of the MAGA universe in real time compared to where they stand on those issues today. This is like an ADHD nightmare of pushing easily disproven narratives and then forgetting what claims we were actually shouting from the rooftops a few weeks ago once the information is more easily confirmed or discredited.

MAGA has a very poor track record of backing up these misinformation narratives in the long term. The fact is they don't care.

I might make a little hobby of examining Joe Bags final claims before he disappeared for two years and seeing if he's still interested in speaking in support of those claims today.
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Facts don't matter when we are discussing religion.
 
The Thriller said:
Good thing his conspiracies weren't limited to Qanon:



Are you really going to argue that a man who is:
  • Into Q
  • Into Anti-Vax nonsense
  • Into the Big Lie
  • Into RW conspiracies about GF, Great Reset, and "Global Elites"
DOESN'T represent most Republicans in 2022? Have you heard any Republicans campaign this cycle? How about former leaders and prominent media figures? Ever heard of JD Vance, Blake Masters, Kari Lake, MTG, Tucker Carlson, or Donald Trump?

Is this really what you wanted to say in a thread about inflammatory rhetoric and political violence?
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That wasn't my argument in the first place.

I said this particular individual doesn't have to be a Republican in order to buy into these conspiracy theories.

I don't care about the D vs R stuff, really. What I want more than anything else is to have MAGA driven into obscurity and effectively eliminated from mainstream politics. I wouldn't say it's likely but if that were to happen I'd consider voting for a Republican again. I doubt that there is a path back to the Republican party for me even if they shed MAGA because they are still the party of Christian Nationalism that fuels their opposition to abortion right, LGBTQ+ rights, women's equality and racial equality. For some reason they also feel strongly about not funding public education, not even doing the easiest thing to support people in need, favoring police brutality over civil rights, continuing the failed drug war over treating addiction, increasing long-term incarceration over rehabilitation. So yeah. But I don't mind sharing a country with Republicans, I do have a problem sharing a country with MAGA and a horde of followers who have been duped into living in an absolute fantasyland that precludes any possibility of reasonable compromise.
 
Gameface said:
That wasn't my argument in the first place.

I said this particular individual doesn't have to be a Republican in order to buy into these conspiracy theories.

I don't care about the D vs R stuff, really. What I want more than anything else is to have MAGA driven into obscurity and effectively eliminated from mainstream politics. I wouldn't say it's likely but if that were to happen I'd consider voting for a Republican again. I doubt that there is a path back to the Republican party for me even if they shed MAGA because they are still the party of Christian Nationalism that fuels their opposition to abortion right, LGBTQ+ rights, women's equality and racial equality. For some reason they also feel strongly about not funding public education, not even doing the easiest thing to support people in need, favoring police brutality over civil rights, continuing the failed drug war over treating addiction, increasing long-term incarceration over rehabilitation. So yeah. But I don't mind sharing a country with Republicans, I do have a problem sharing a country with MAGA and a horde of followers who have been duped into living in an absolute fantasyland that precludes any possibility of reasonable compromise.
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You can't NOT care about R v D stuff because one of these parties is the party of authoritarianism and conspiracy (which usually go hand in hand) and it's not changing anytime soon. Most likely, conservatives will have to create their own party out of the Democratic party rather than trying to resurrect Reagan's GOP.
 
LogGrad98 said:
My dad, and many other people I know are what I would call typical republican voters. Here is how most of the "other" republicans I know stand on these issues:

Qanon? Finds it ridiculous
Anti mask/vax? Always wears his mask, fully up to date on vaccines, didn't let anyone unvaccinated in his house for over a year and a half.
Worships Trump? Hates Trump.
Believes in the Big Lie? Believes anyone who believes the big lie is a moron.
Even the racism and anti-semiticism is becoming normalized. Doesn't have a racist bone in his body.

I think this is true of most republicans, although that percentage is up for debate. I think what we hear and see the most are the vocal minority making a lot of noise. Then there is another minority, people like my dad, who are firmly on the other side of this argument. The biggest concern is what falls in the middle, the silent majority. Those who hold some of these beliefs, or at least still want Trump, because of reasons or whatever, or the old holdovers of we ain't votin' no lib-ruhl in ta da whitehouse where really they are just clueless about any of the topics in question, or any stance really, other than vague racist notions and the belief that we have to protect the country from being over-run by socialists or what-have-you. I believe the majority falls in this last camp. They aren't out campaigning for Trump and making all the noise, that is a minority of repubs. They aren't firmly against it all and want to see something...anything...in its place. They are riding the edge, and bolstering the numbers, in the name of some weird nostalgic belief in the good old days when people stayed in their place and they didn't have to have all these gays and blacks and gender-what? thrown in their faces all the time. Stuck back in the 50's when everyone knew their place in society and it seemed, to them at least, to be stable and secure, whereas now it is bordering, from their point of view at least, on anarchy. This is where the real problem lies, imo, those who are so entrenched and uninformed that they just tick all the "R" boxes because they are so disconnected they don't have a clue who or what most of the things they are voting for actually are.

To be fair, I believe that constitutes a majority of voters no matter where they fall on the political spectrum. We are falling into the trap Socrates (as Plato) decried, the fact that an uninformed electorate will vote in demagogues over anything else, and boy do we have a LOT of demagogues in our politics. One could argue that is nearly all we have. Few, if any, are really concerned for the well-being of the country, and even fewer will put that above what they need to do to get themselves or their party re-elected, all the while doing nothing to improve anything, yet patting themselves on the back that the people still love them, and of course they mean well, while watching Rome burn from the balcony of their ivory towers. That is the sad state of politics in America today.

So no, I do not believe the average republican holds those beliefs. I think the truly average republican (and democrat for that matter) is so uninformed on the true issues that they just tick the boxes next to their respective political/religious adherence. Because in lots of ways, especially for the, often willfully, uninformed, it is more a religion to believe in than a political position to be thought about critically to make an informed choice.
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Your dad is in the minority.

Polls overwhelmingly show Republicans don't believe Biden was elected legitimately as president, show the majority believe in Qanon, and distrust covid vaccines.
www.nbcnews.com

Two-thirds of Republicans don't believe Biden was elected legitimately

Just 5% of "Trump-first" Republicans view Biden's election as legitimate almost two years after the 2020 race concluded.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
www.forbes.com

Majority Of Republicans Believe The QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is Partly Or Mostly True, Survey Finds

72% of Democrats say the QAnon conspiracy is “not true at all.”
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
Take any poll or just hard data. Republican distrust of covid vaccines has been beaten to death.

Facts matter guys.
 
The Thriller said:
Your dad is in the minority.

Polls overwhelmingly show Republicans don't believe Biden was elected legitimately as president and show the majority believe in Qanon.
www.nbcnews.com

Two-thirds of Republicans don't believe Biden was elected legitimately

Just 5% of "Trump-first" Republicans view Biden's election as legitimate almost two years after the 2020 race concluded.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
www.forbes.com

Majority Of Republicans Believe The QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is Partly Or Mostly True, Survey Finds

72% of Democrats say the QAnon conspiracy is “not true at all.”
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

Facts matter guys.
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Your constant attacks along party lines is a turn off for me. I'm not a fan of Democrats. They are the alternative to something I find absolutely abhorrent, but I don't think they are a force for good or anything. To always push this as a good guys vs bad guys thing does little but create apathy about the entire thing because I, and I believe many others in this discussion, don't want to be forced into being Democrat cheer leaders in order to have allies in the fight to eliminate MAGA.

So please don't respond to this by explaining to me again for probably more than the 100th time that Republicans are evil. I don't need any convincing that I don't support MAGA. I also don't need the alternative to MAGA to be that I have to accept the Democratic party into my heart. MAGA = bad doesn't mean Democrats = good. I'm not making the "both sides are the same" argument here, I'm just saying that I DGAF about Democrats.
 
Gameface said:
Your constant attacks along party lines is a turn off for me. I'm not a fan of Democrats. They are the alternative to something I find absolutely abhorrent, but I don't think they are a force for good or anything. To always push this as a good guys vs bad guys thing does little but create apathy about the entire thing because I, and I believe many others in this discussion, don't want to be forced into being Democrat cheer leaders in order to have allies in the fight to eliminate MAGA.

So please don't respond to this by explaining to me again for probably more than the 100th time that Republicans are evil. I don't need any convincing that I don't support MAGA. I also don't need the alternative to MAGA to be that I have to accept the Democratic party into my heart. MAGA = bad doesn't mean Democrats = good. I'm not making the "both sides are the same" argument here, I'm just saying that I DGAF about Democrats.
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That's fine, you acting like I'm basing my views on tribalism and not on knowledge gained from studying and teaching about illiberal movements throughout history is a turn off to me. Please don't respond to this by explaining to me again for probably more than the 100th time that I'm tribal and partisan and mean. Don't threaten me about blowing brains out either, that was really inappropriate and probably one of the more disgusting things I've seen written on this website in a while. I DGAF about about being a cheerleader. I do however, GAF about protecting our liberal democracy.
 
Gameface said:
Your constant attacks along party lines is a turn off for me. I'm not a fan of Democrats. They are the alternative to something I find absolutely abhorrent, but I don't think they are a force for good or anything. To always push this as a good guys vs bad guys thing does little but create apathy about the entire thing because I, and I believe many others in this discussion, don't want to be forced into being Democrat cheer leaders in order to have allies in the fight to eliminate MAGA.

So please don't respond to this by explaining to me again for probably more than the 100th time that Republicans are evil. I don't need any convincing that I don't support MAGA. I also don't need the alternative to MAGA to be that I have to accept the Democratic party into my heart. MAGA = bad doesn't mean Democrats = good. I'm not making the "both sides are the same" argument here, I'm just saying that I DGAF about Democrats.
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Great post!
 
Bucknutz said:
Left wing extreme media, how ever he received it, to shoot people at ball park at Republicans. I could ask the same for you, who influenced the Pelosi attacker? Specifically who? I can answer that, right wing extreme media.
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Right-wing media endorsing violent imagery.

Bucknutz said:
Did the Las Vegas shooter have a history of domestic violence? Nope, closest history is he yelled at his partner. I know there is a link between domestic abuse and shootings, but that is not all the time. I don't see the extremist posts coming from Fish, LG, Gameface, AL, You, Red. You all post with decency.
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I agree that there are few universals in human behavior (although the Las Vegas shooter's father was a bank robber, so I suspect he was not the most restrained of parents, I acknowledge there likely are other shooters who have no such history). He's also an example that, to my knowledge, had no extreme political agenda.

Bucknutz said:
I literally posted a Thriller post calling for removing all Trumpers. That is violence. He has a history of posting that an unvaccinated should not be aloud in hospital beds, they should be only available for vaccinated. So killing off people, even though not all unvaccinated people are republicans, and that vaccinated people can still spread it. He calls the right: woefully and willfully ignorant and/or suffering from a severe character or anti-social flaws, lowlife, racists, **** wads, unbelievably stupid, crappy person, ****** person, delusional, simplistic misogynistic douchebags, biggest dumbasses, etc.

He is exactly like who he hates. Trump. He rips everyone who is not on his side. He is an extremist. He is a far left extremist and he has a posting history of being one.
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I interact with right-wingers and left-wingers who call for worse. If every such person on the internet were a mass shooter, we'd be awash in blood. I also find his posting to be occasionally off-putting and extreme, but it takes more than that to make a person a killer.

Bucknutz said:
The thriller is very angry; once again, read his posts. If he can't control it in a forum setting, how can he control it in life. That is what red flag laws are for.
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For some, spreading it over into an internet forum is one of the methods they use to release their anger from life.

Bucknutz said:
He talks about stacking the Supreme Court, getting rid of the electoral college: He states he wants to get rid of the Senate Filibuster. These are extreme views. This is his way of setting up an authoritarian government that 1 party can control everything. The thriller is extreme. He is authoritarian. He is everything he accuses Trump of being. I know you might agree with him on topics, which is completely fine, but the big picture shows he is an extremist.
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I'm not sure how you mean "extremist" here. I think stacking SCOTUS is ultimately pointless and getting rid of the filibuster is a double-edged sword; I see the positions as short-sighted as opposed to wrong, and I'm very worried about what the Republicans would do without these restraints. I'm in favor of electing POTUS by popular vote; I think that will serve as a buffer against more extreme candidates. To be clear, I've thought for a long time that I was more leftist than The Thriller, just less judgmental.
 
The Thriller said:
That's fine, you acting like I'm basing my views on tribalism and not on knowledge gained from studying and teaching about illiberal movements throughout history is a turn off to me. Please don't respond to this by explaining to me again for probably more than the 100th time that I'm tribal and partisan and mean. Don't threaten me about blowing brains out either, that was really inappropriate and probably one of the more disgusting things I've seen written on this website in a while. I DGAF about about being a cheerleader. I do however, GAF about protecting our liberal democracy.
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Uhh, it wasn't disgusting at all. It was me saying that I was going to blow your mind. I switched it up a little thinking it was clever. It was not a reference to physically harming your brain in any way shape or form. I can't even believe that you read it that way having just gone back and re-read it.
 
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