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I have heard that besides seizures and PTSD, medical marijuana is especially effective for rhuematoid arthritis and glaucoma. Its can be pretty hit or miss for pain from what i understand. It has worked for me with pain in the past simply due to the high making me distracted from the pain. Works ok for sleep (especially the gummies. My dad takes them for sleep). And can help with someone who is struggling to eat.
 
I have heard that besides seizures and PTSD, medical marijuana is especially effective for rhuematoid arthritis and glaucoma. Its can be pretty hit or miss for pain from what i understand. It has worked for me with pain in the past simply due to the high making me distracted from the pain. Works ok for sleep (especially the gummies. My dad takes them for sleep). And can help with someone who is struggling to eat.
A little bit back when I was visiting my sister in California I tried a tincture two different times. It's in a bottle with a dropper and supposedly the full dropper is 10mg, which for a non user is a decently large dose AFAIK. Both times took it around 5pm and put the liquid under my tongue and held it there for about 30s which was supposed to help it kick in faster. I was warned against double dosing thinking that it wasn't doing anything because it can take a while. It didn't ever kick-in that evening, both times I woke up around 7am and felt totally stoned for the next couple hours. Weird AF. Lost interest in edibles and tinctures after that.
 
A little bit back when I was visiting my sister in California I tried a tincture two different times. It's in a bottle with a dropper and supposedly the full dropper is 10mg, which for a non user is a decently large dose AFAIK. Both times took it around 5pm and put the liquid under my tongue and held it there for about 30s which was supposed to help it kick in faster. I was warned against double dosing thinking that it wasn't doing anything because it can take a while. It didn't ever kick-in that evening, both times I woke up around 7am and felt totally stoned for the next couple hours. Weird AF. Lost interest in edibles and tinctures after that.
I dont like edibles either and i have tried tinctures and they did nothing at all. Smoking and vaping is the way to go for me.
 
My wife asked me to ask you to post pictures of your scars. She wants to see your natural beauty.


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Ok here you go. In a spoiler tag for anyone who doesn't want to see my scars. Of course I cropped it down a bit so we didn't have a wave of uncontrolable vomiting on keyboards.

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Ok here you go. In a spoiler tag for anyone who doesn't want to see my scars. Of course I cropped it down a bit so we didn't have a wave of uncontrolable vomiting on keyboards.

Wow. You look like wolverine!
 
Wow. You look like wolverine!
It definitely gets stares at the beach. When my kids were younger and we would go to a public pool or whatever other kids would ask them what happened, and I told my kids to tell them something like "he killed a polar bear with his bare hands!" or a tiger or something. Then it was really a lot of fun. lol
 
It definitely gets stares at the beach. When my kids were younger and we would go to a public pool or whatever other kids would ask them what happened, and I told my kids to tell them something like "he killed a polar bear with his bare hands!" or a tiger or something. Then it was really a lot of fun. lol
Good call.
 
This is some good news for those or us who need help controlling pain. Let's hope states reverse their stupid knee-jerk reaction to the old guidelines and we get some sanity for people dealing with chronic pain.

 
This is some good news for those or us who need help controlling pain. Let's hope states reverse their stupid knee-jerk reaction to the old guidelines and we get some sanity for people dealing with chronic pain.

That’s great news. My doctor allows me to take Vicodin, as needed, for chronic back pain. But his nurse doesn’t hide her disdain whenever I call for a refill. I’ve had to say things like “could you please just convey my request to my doctor, he understands”. Sick of the attitude, so this is great to hear.
 
I started taking kratom for chronic pain and as an alternative to taking prescription pain medications about 5 years ago. I was blinded by the thought that it was a natural and safe way to treat pain. I got addicted to it and was taking it about 6 times a day, every day. At first it helped with pain and anxiety, but once you're dependent on it, you take it to not feel withdrawals and to be functional. It makes your mind cloudy, memory bad, hair thin, and life controlled by it. I woke up every night, save a handful of times, for 5 years to take it when I'd wake up around 3 AM. When I had my surgeries, it makes opioids not work at all pretty much, so I just had deal with the pain. Didn't tell the doctors because they don't know about it or understand it. I would even take it before my surgeries when I was supposed to be fasting because I knew I'd wake up with withdrawals. It's expensive and I travel a lot for work so I always had to plan my life around it and when I was going to take it next. TSA would always pull the powder from my bags and test it for something illegal. I highly suggest never taking that stuff for pain relief, especially if you have chronic pain or an addictive personality.

The good news is I'm 4 months off it. I got help to do it and found a great place that has a great group of doctors that help with addiction. I had to take two suboxone strips a day for a few months, but without that, it would have been near damn impossible to function for work, get out of bed, be motivated, and be a normal human being.

On top of that, I was self medicating with alcohol too. I was trying to check out of life, stress, anxiety, depression, pain, and guilt. I didn't know hope to cope with all of the traumas that happened over the course of a few years. I never drank every day and could go for weeks without it, but when I did, it was to cope and checkout. I would binge drink and at its worse, I was doing 2 to 4 day benders. It got bad. It made everything worse. I almost died. Luckily, I had a friend who went through the same thing and got me the same help he did. Probably saved my life.

I'm 4 months sober today. I'm so proud of myself for the changes I've made putting work into becoming a better person and learning how to cope.

There's help out there, I just never knew what it was, how to ask for it, and it's OK to need it. There's lots of people who struggle and just don't know what to do. I'm more than happy to help anyone struggling with addiction who wants help.

Not at all saying pain medication is bad if you take it and I know those of you that do understand the struggles with becoming dependent on it while taking it for pain. Chronic pain changes lives and people don't understand not only the physical but the mental challenges it suffocates you with.
 
I started taking kratom for chronic pain and as an alternative to taking prescription pain medications about 5 years ago. I was blinded by the thought that it was a natural and safe way to treat pain. I got addicted to it and was taking it about 6 times a day, every day. At first it helped with pain and anxiety, but once you're dependent on it, you take it to not feel withdrawals and to be functional. It makes your mind cloudy, memory bad, hair thin, and life controlled by it. I woke up every night, save a handful of times, for 5 years to take it when I'd wake up around 3 AM. When I had my surgeries, it makes opioids not work at all pretty much, so I just had deal with the pain. Didn't tell the doctors because they don't know about it or understand it. I would even take it before my surgeries when I was supposed to be fasting because I knew I'd wake up with withdrawals. It's expensive and I travel a lot for work so I always had to plan my life around it and when I was going to take it next. TSA would always pull the powder from my bags and test it for something illegal. I highly suggest never taking that stuff for pain relief, especially if you have chronic pain or an addictive personality.

The good news is I'm 4 months off it. I got help to do it and found a great place that has a great group of doctors that help with addiction. I had to take two suboxone strips a day for a few months, but without that, it would have been near damn impossible to function for work, get out of bed, be motivated, and be a normal human being.

On top of that, I was self medicating with alcohol too. I was trying to check out of life, stress, anxiety, depression, pain, and guilt. I didn't know hope to cope with all of the traumas that happened over the course of a few years. I never drank every day and could go for weeks without it, but when I did, it was to cope and checkout. I would binge drink and at its worse, I was doing 2 to 4 day benders. It got bad. It made everything worse. I almost died. Luckily, I had a friend who went through the same thing and got me the same help he did. Probably saved my life.

I'm 4 months sober today. I'm so proud of myself for the changes I've made putting work into becoming a better person and learning how to cope.

There's help out there, I just never knew what it was, how to ask for it, and it's OK to need it. There's lots of people who struggle and just don't know what to do. I'm more than happy to help anyone struggling with addiction who wants help.

Not at all saying pain medication is bad if you take it and I know those of you that do understand the struggles with becoming dependent on it while taking it for pain. Chronic pain changes lives and people don't understand not only the physical but the mental challenges it suffocates you with.
Man I am so sorry you went through all that. I am glad you got the help you need. That is a big problem in this country is the stigma that still hangs around asking for help in any regard. Happy to hear you are on a better path.

Luckily I have been able to manage my pain with kratom and percocet without dealing with dependence on that level. I use either one or the other maybe 2-3 times per week, and that is enough to get me by, but I have been just dealing with the pain for a long time as well. I sometimes go 2-3 weeks at a time without using either one. I am one of the lucky ones that doesn't have that effect with my painkillers, so I am grateful for that, believe me. I have seen too many friends end up in the same place you were, and have had a couple of them taken from us with their dependence. Keep taking care of yourself my friend, we all want you here a long long time with us, to enjoy the rapture of the many Jazz championships to come! Praise Lauri!!
 
That’s great news. My doctor allows me to take Vicodin, as needed, for chronic back pain. But his nurse doesn’t hide her disdain whenever I call for a refill. I’ve had to say things like “could you please just convey my request to my doctor, he understands”. Sick of the attitude, so this is great to hear.
Yeah I got that at the new ortho I have been going to for my neck and back issues. One of his first comments was "so your PCP didn't want to write you pain scripts anymore and you needed a new dr to write them huh?" or something along those lines. I put him in his place, but I was close to switching from that. If I hadn't been waiting so long to get something going, I would have probably moved on. But I am lucky with my PCP as she just fills my script when I ask. Of course it has to be re-issued for every new month, cannot have a single refill on the order at all. Big Brother California knows best how to manage everyone's pain, right? Such ********. And it does nothing to help curb the addiction epidemic, it just pushes people to look for other means, like illegals or things like kratom that are less controlled. Not a good approach.
 
Yeah I got that at the new ortho I have been going to for my neck and back issues. One of his first comments was "so your PCP didn't want to write you pain scripts anymore and you needed a new dr to write them huh?" or something along those lines. I put him in his place, but I was close to switching from that. If I hadn't been waiting so long to get something going, I would have probably moved on. But I am lucky with my PCP as she just fills my script when I ask. Of course it has to be re-issued for every new month, cannot have a single refill on the order at all. Big Brother California knows best how to manage everyone's pain, right? Such ********. And it does nothing to help curb the addiction epidemic, it just pushes people to look for other means, like illegals or things like kratom that are less controlled. Not a good approach.
I hear you. What ticks me off when I get the “tsk, tsk” vibe, is I am very responsible about it. It’s good to have the Vicodin when I need it, but the pain has to be way up there before I reach for the vial. I can go weeks without it, then have several real bad days when it really helps tamp down the pain. I tried a lot before settling on pain management. Trigger point injections, massage therapy, physical therapy. Finally went with Opiate patches, and Vicodin if needed, as well. Weened myself off the patches, after a couple of years daily use, and now I only use the Vicodin when things are at their worse. It’s a quality of life issue. If one is responsible about usage, one should not have to rationalize to anyone why one wants to maintain quality of life for as long as one is able.
 
Has anyone tried Phenibut for pain or anything else? My dr upped my gabapentin for pain and I was reading that in Russia they prescribe phenibut which affects GABA in the brain and can work alongside gabapentin to make it more effective. I am trying to find a source but that part is tough, mostly coming from websites that want to deal exclusively in cash app or crypto, so pretty shady. Looking to see if anyone here knows anything about it.
 
After 10 weeks of knee pain and **** loads of time off work I got the word today that I need surgery, likely in the new year.

Multiple tears to the cartlidge as well as other issues that need a lcean up, ****ing great.
 
After 10 weeks of knee pain and **** loads of time off work I got the word today that I need surgery, likely in the new year.

Multiple tears to the cartlidge as well as other issues that need a lcean up, ****ing great.
That sucks man. I can only hope that it all goes as good as possible.
 
After 10 weeks of knee pain and **** loads of time off work I got the word today that I need surgery, likely in the new year.

Multiple tears to the cartlidge as well as other issues that need a lcean up, ****ing great.
Good luck. But hey at least they figured out something they can do.
 
That sucks man. I can only hope that it all goes as good as possible.

Good luck. But hey at least they figured out something they can do.


Worst part is I can't drink, 5 or 6 pints and my knee swells so bad I can't walk for days. Pick up the referral for the surgeon tomorrow, will book in asap, probs gonna have to pay cash to jump the queue but it needs doing.
 
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