The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

Gameface said:

Yeah, less than 51% said no. I'm beyond happy that Hobbs won, but how can a person like Lake get within a percentage point of winning?

Fortunately I think the GOP got the message. Let’s all hope team normal represents the Republican party in 2024.

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Tribalism definitely figures into things.

But I think a large segment of the population is prosperous, comfortable, and bored as ****. They want politics to be entertaining. They want to be the “12th man” in this football game of politics. Because the things their grandparents would’ve killed for are easily available now as modern-day conveniences, they’re seeking direction and meaning in life. Social media, teevee, and treating politics as a horse race give them that. The whole unseriousness of it drives me crazy. Remember back when Trump badmouthed Kim and then bragged about his “nuclear button” being bigger than Kim’s? We were playing with fire. Never should leaders joke around with nuclear weapons like that.

Trump, like Walker and Lake, would be terrific train accidents. train accidents, although deadly and destructive, can sort of be entertaining. You’d think after our president suggested we stick flashlights up our asses and inject ourselves with disinfectant that we would’ve learned? Apparently not. 30-40 percent of our pop wants to see a train wreck.

I’m just glad we have capable (imperfect) leaders guiding foreign policy today. Had Trump won, imagine the *********** Eastern Europe and NATO would be right now.

The Thriller said:

Westerners have it so good that when faced with minor inconveniences, they describe what they’re going through as gulags or concentration camps. They reveal both the ease of modern-day life and their ignorance of history.

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300 days in lockdown is a "minor inconvenience" ???? You continue to showcase your staggering ignorance

Douchebag K said:

300 days in lockdown is a "minor inconvenience" ???? You continue to showcase your staggering ignorance

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I have a feeling what you call lockdown is different than what most people think it means. Yes, I believe the majority of Australians largely faced minor inconveniences during Covid.

MY TURN!

Were you forced to work 15 hour days?
Were you tortured and beaten?
Were you allowed to communicate with those you wanted to without fear of being executed by guards? Did you still have access to teevee, the Internet, and technology?
Could you essentially eat what you wanted?
Did you maintain possession of your house, clothing, and personal property?
Did you still live with your family?

Are you sure you lived in a Gulag?

I have some texts for you to read if you’d like to familiarize yourself with some narratives from people who actually lived in Gulags. Indeed, Let’s talk about “staggering ignorance”, shall we?

The Thriller said:

I have a feeling what you call lockdown is different than what most people think it means. Yes, I believe the majority of Australians largely faced minor inconveniences during Covid.

MY TURN!

Were you forced to work 15 hour days?
Were you tortured and beaten?
Were you allowed to communicate with those you wanted to without fear of being executed by guards? Did you still have access to teevee, the Internet, and technology?
Could you essentially eat what you wanted?
Did you maintain possession of your house, clothing, and personal property?
Did you still live with your family?

Are you sure you lived in a Gulag?

I have some texts for you to read if you’d like to familiarize yourself with some narratives from people who actually lived in Gulags.

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good grief you are a next level moron. Like i meant gulag literally. And you have no idea of what happened here. Do please entertain me with what you think the level of lockdown was in Melbourne for 300 days .. waiting. Be specific.

Douchebag K said:

good grief you are a next level moron. Like i meant gulag literally. And you have no idea of what happened here. Do please entertain me with what you think the level of lockdown was in Melbourne for 300 days .. waiting. Be specific.

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That was sort of my pt. You just missed it. We need to Stop comparing things we don’t like to the Holocaust, gulags, etc. Words matter.

It’s not my job to prove your claim. You need to support your claim of living 300 days in lockdown. Be specific. Go for it dude.

I think this election demonstrated more people want to take democracy and governance seriously, than be entertained with this hysteric level of Big Lie whining BS.


View: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1592335079225032709

Red said:

I think this election demonstrated more people want to take democracy and governance seriously, than be entertained with this hysteric level of Big Lie whining BS.


View: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1592335079225032709

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Totally agree.

It took me a bit to find this. I’ve found this enlightening as it has stayed with me for years now:

Victor Vizcarra, 48, of Los Angeles, said he would much prefer Mr. Trump to Mrs. Clinton. Though he said he disagreed with some of Mr. Trump’s policies, he added that he had watched “The Apprentice” and expected that a Trump presidency would be more exciting than a “boring” Clinton administration.

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“A dark side of me wants to see what happens if Trump is in,” said Mr. Vizcarra, who works in information technology. “There is going to be some kind of change, and even if it’s like a Nazi-type change, people are so drama-filled. They want to see stuff like that happen. It’s like reality TV. You don’t want to just see everybody be happy with each other. You want to see someone fighting somebody.”

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Treating politics like entertainment can really lead to bad consequences. Unfortunately, a lot of bored Americans want rodeo clowns like Lake, Masters, and Walker. It gives them excitement. It gives them meaning. It gives them that “movement” that the bored as **** middle class craves now that they’re free from the exhaustion and economic anxiety that plagued earlier generations. Their grandparents thought air conditioning, one crappy tv, and indoor plumbing was awesome. They actually had challenges, like fighting wars, dealing with polio, working dangerous jobs. Today? The bored middle class gets all upset if the porn loading on their phones doesnt load quickly enough or if our favorite restaurant has a wait. They own several flat screen tvs that collectively make larger screens than yesterday’s cinemas. Bars closed for a few days in America during. Remember this? Not being able to get her hair done cuz of Covid “lockdowns.” Oh the suffering! Fast forward to :40 seconds.

View: https://youtu.be/4b6GvszlkR0

Weird. Why didn’t Blake win? It’s hard to not understand why this didn’t resonate with voters. After all, “iNfLaTiOn” is like supposed to be super important so you’d think he’d offer solutions for that.


View: https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1591465462420090887?s=46&t=CTdbfvDJvH1wRtuHvbzc7A

The Thriller said:

Weird. Why didn’t Blake win? It’s hard to not understand why this didn’t resonate with voters. After all, “iNfLaTiOn” is like supposed to be super important so you’d think he’d offer solutions for that.


View: https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1591465462420090887?s=46&t=CTdbfvDJvH1wRtuHvbzc7A

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Dang I kind of want that gun but probably in .380 which I think is what James Bond uses.

Perfect reply…


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So so so glad Kari Lake lost. The fact she got that many votes to begin with is alarming itself but man what an absolute nutcase.

Gameface said:

Yeah, less than 51% said no. I'm beyond happy that Hobbs won, but how can a person like Lake get within a percentage point of winning?

Fortunately I think the GOP got the message. Lets all hope team normal represents the Republican party in 2024.

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I hope, but I am not holding my breath. Too many mad white people watching "their" society deteriorate as POC and LGBTQ become more and more mainstream and gain more power. It is tough for them to watch their power being broken in front of their eyes and they will not go quietly. Frankly the strongest thing Trump did to activate this large base, especially the silent ones you never thought would support this garbage, was to frame the poor white man as the victim. That is how a lot of them feel now. I mean, good hell, they have to watch a gay couple in nearly EVERY single movie and TV show, and mixed-race relationships everywhere! How can they be expected to accept this obvious affront to everything they hold dear! They want their dad's America again, that is what MAGA means after all for real, it should be MAWA. Make America White Again. And that sense of their society deteriorating is a powerful motivator. I expect this is all going to get worse before it really gets better. Less than 51% in Arizona means we really just got lucky on who turned out to vote, not that the voters have spoken and broken the MAGA cycle.

Enough Americans cared enough about the obvious MAGA threats to democracy. This is not all that dissimilar from the lesson contained in the “boy who cried wolf” tale. I don’t believe election deniers can continue to use “widespread fraud!” Or “they stole the election!”, and expect that it will be at all persuasive. Sure, people marching in Az demanding that the military intervene, and run the election over, are, well, lost, they’ll likely remain cultists. And in many Congressional races, election deniers won. But, I bet many of those districts were heavily Republican, and where Republican incumbents won, and where a GOP candidate claimed 2020 was stolen, but did not have Trump campaigning by their side, as was the case in some of the “bigger” contests. Look, if the GOP is going to field candidates who whine “they stole it from me!” every time they lose, people will get it: “don’t they say this every time they lose”?

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“It’s hard to pin down the precise role that MAGA election denial played in the overall outcome. But as Nate Cohn points out, a clear pattern is discernible: In races where democracy itself was at stake — say, with election deniers vying for positions of control over elections, or overt supporters of the insurrection running for the House — Democrats overperformed, including with independent voters.
Abortion rights, of course, played a huge role in many of these races. But Cohn noted that in contests where democracy was “elevated” as an issue, voters “responded to those concerns.”

A similar dynamic was identified by GOP strategist Sarah Longwell of the Republican Accountability PAC, a group of Never Trumpers. Longwell says her focus groups found that independents and swing voters often spoke out against MAGA election-denying candidates despite being upset about the economy.

“The reason was always that the Republican candidate was nuts,” Longwell told me, adding that focus group participants regularly cited election denial as a proof point.”
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Maybe Michael Moore was right. After all, he’s only saying “there are more of us than them”….

I know multiple staunch republicans that voted for Hobbs over Lake. That is truly how bad Lake is.

mongoose01 said:

That’s what my government that takes half of my salary would say.


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The government takes half of your salary? Man i wish i was rich like you.
I dont make enough to be even close the 50% tax bracket. Actually no one does since the highest tax bracket taxes at 37% for those earning over 539,000 per year. So the government certainly does not take half of your salary. If they did then your tax return would be insanely huge.


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Elizah Huge said:

I know multiple staunch republicans that voted for Hobbs over Lake. That is truly how bad Lake is.

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I indulge in the guilty pleasure of reading KSL news article comments. The commenters are overwhelmingly Republican and the majority are also LDS. I've been getting a very strong impression or they are outright saying that many of them are done with the GOP so long as this insanity has a grip on the party. There's just too many people not ready to drink the kool aid and jump off the cliff with the hardcore MAGA crowd.

Gameface said:

I indulge in the guilty pleasure of reading KSL news article comments. The commenters are overwhelmingly Republican and the majority are also LDS. I've been getting a very strong impression or they are outright saying that many of them are done with the GOP so long as this insanity has a grip on the party. There's just too many people not ready to drink the kool aid and jump off the cliff with the hardcore MAGA crowd.

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The thing is that is just the group willing to comment about it. I fear that the larger silent majority is still sympathetic to the MAGA cause, if nothing else, in the case of Mormons, because R is next to the name. Abortion is such a hot-button topic for Mormons that they will ignore literally everything else in the pursuit of banning abortions, as an example of the blinders on the group as a whole. I fear that there are a solid and staunch part of the republican party with a similar bent, be it a single hot-button topic like abortion, or simply because the R means they will support my needs as a white man in America, that is enough to keep the votes close and possibly tip a few over. Yes, as the candidates get more ridiculous, more of the sane and thinking members of the Republican party will hopefully vote against the insanity, but obviously, from the results in AZ for example, that is a razor-thin margin. Hopefully this is just the edge of the wave that pushes the nuts back out to sea, but I fear it is just a lull in the storm, tbpmfhwymf.

mongoose01 said:

They aren’t going to pass **** anyways… unless it’s more money to the military industrial complex or the medical industrial complex. They already had the majority for two years and they didn’t do jack (at least for blue-collar Americans). They have offered tons of money to warmongers and the pharmaceutical industry however.

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There are limits to what you can do in the face of a persistent filibuster, but Biden's done a lot of good things.

Mongoose said:

Obama said he would codify roe v wade as his first item of business.

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I do not remember this. Could you provide a quote from 2008 where he said this? I did his celebration of Roe vs. Wade from 2008, but no mention of codifying it. I think the finiacial collapse in 2008 meant he felt he had other priorities.

Mongoose said:

Did he do it? Dems had a super majority in congress under Obama- what did they do?

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Mongoose said:

Did they forgive student loans? Obama took us from 2 wars to 7- he didn't make healthcare better, if anything he privatized it even more. Democrats were supposed to deliver medicare for all.

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The doubled the number of qualified Medicaid recipients (in states that agree to the program). FQHCs saw a corresponding increase in regular patients.

Mongoose said:

I think its a miracle of sorts more dems aren't pissed off- my life has undoubtedly gotten worse over the last 2 years and the democrat controlled government doesn't seem to give a care.

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I'm sorry to hear that. Most people are better off in November 2022 compared to November 2020.

With Trump throwing his 2024 hat into the ring, my guess is he's going to find that the road is going to be rockier than he would like from his own party much more than anyone else.

There's no honeymoon this time around.

So people in the U.S. blame Biden for the inflation in the U.S..

There is worldwide inflation and conservatives in the U.S. have told me that it is 100% reasonable to blame worldwide inflation on the U.S. President, the U.S. is so big and powerful after all.

So who are the people in other places like France, Germany, UK, Russia, S Korea, Japan, etc., blaming inflation on? Are they blaming Biden? I mean this is just as big a deal for them isn't it? In fact its a bigger deal in a lot of cases because inflation in the U.S. has been better than it has been in a lot of other places.