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Is Rudy Gobert the most overrated player in NBA history?

Not at all. He got limit but he is a great player if you use him well. You not become 3 times best defense guy in the league just by luck. By the way, Cleveland blow a lead today at crutch time against Indiana, Don missing shoot at crutch time. Does it make him the most overated player in the NBA?
 
Last nights game is yet again another reminder of how badly we miss a rim protector and rebounder. Even if you gave Minny back the players we got in that trade, we would be in the hunt in the West with Rudy this year. There have been some really overrated players in the league but Rudy is not one of them. Fit matters.
 
Rudy’s great but when he’s your top 2 player on the team then you got a problem.

He's always gonna make the money like he did when no one else on your team plays any defense.
 
framer said:
Tracy McGrady is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. That's an easy one. . .
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Dwight Howard would like a word.

However, I believe Dwight played longed enough for people to realize this and for him to get to a point where he was actually underrated for the role you’d have (bench big) but it was overshadowed by recognition of his previous overratedness (as a franchise cornerstone).

Carmelo, too. At least in the sense that he played long enough for people to catch on. Both that he became underrated. I mean, he kinda did in the sense that nobody would sign him until he caught on in Portland, but I still wouldn’t have necessarily wanted him. But he still could have brought value that people would have wanted if there wasn’t the idea that it was Carmelo.
 
I love Rudy like a fat kid loves chocolate cake; however, he had to be used correctly. I think a better question is if Quin was an underrated coach. Obviously the knuckle heads in Minnesota have no clue how to use Rudy.
 
The issue with Gobert isn't that hes not great at what he does, he is. The issue is his contract. He's a max player who does not easily fit into a modern nba team and playstyle. In the modern NBA, Gobert is a specialist. And you can't afford to pay a specialist a third of your cap. Ideally he'd be the fourth or fifth most important guy on your team, a team deep enough that you could afford not to play him against certain matchups. You could use him to give you a different look, but to go deep you'd need to have alternate options as well, and we never did. He definitely has his uses and a deep smart team could use him to great effect, but the best nba teams will always be able to disable the "gobert effect" and make him not only ineffective, but a liability. The Mitchell/Gobert team was a great regular season team because of gobert, but we were hard-capped at the second round. You just can't have a defense only center be your 1st/2nd best player in the modern nba. The Wolves have hamstrung themselves. And they don't have the infrastructure or personnel to adapt to Rudy Ball.

you have to adapt to Rudy. You have to design your team around him. He can only play his way.
 
Rudy is great but not at this amount of money. As is Mike. When you link their performance with the money they make, yes it become a problem. The mistake is that we pay them too much. Which make them very difficult to move. Minny make a crazy bet and they might loose it. But season is still long.
 
If the TWolves wanna give him back I’d gladly give ‘em a couple first round picks and salary match lol. No for real though. We could use the inside presence he brings.


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YoungJefe said:
Rewind to a few months ago and the majority of people here were pounding their chest about how Rudy was such an amazing talent/impactful player and that he would instantly transform the Wolves into a top 2 seed / championship contender.

Now he's struggling without Quin Snyder/Donovan Mitchell to carry him and people are already saying that it may be one of the worst trades in NBA history (as I predicted from the jump, shout out to me).

So that leads me to ask, is he the most overrated player in NBA history? And does Donovan's success and MVP candidacy show that he was truly our best player (hint: yes)?
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You're talking about Donovan and Quin "carrying" Rudy? Are you ****ing serious? You should be banned for such tripe.
 
There’s so many Rudy lovers on here , which is understandable, late pick , was so eager to show what he had , and improve himself and the team

Loved Utah , was an all star , defensive player of the year x 3

He was just simply not worth the money the signed him , extremely restricted offensively, apart from dunks and lobs .

When teams eventually went small against us , it was our/his kryptonite , because he was an all star , defensive player of the year we kept him out there , it killed us .

He isn’t having a great year with the wolves , everyone can see that , and for what DA saw , and what we got in return , we got way overs , to the point I think it’s probably the second worst and most lob sided trade since lakers grizz trade of Gasol …

What I think is totally stupid is people on here bagging Kessler , and comparing rookie Kessler to Vet Rudy …

We got a massive steal in Kessler , sure right now Rudy is the better player , but re visit this in 3 years time , the draft picks , and whatever happens to Beasley and JV .
 
Cptgrnlngs22 said:
If the TWolves wanna give him back I’d gladly give ‘em a couple first round picks and salary match lol. No for real though. We could use the inside presence he brings.


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Or we could keep our picks and simply play the inside presence we already have more minutes.


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infection said:
Dwight Howard would like a word.

However, I believe Dwight played longed enough for people to realize this and for him to get to a point where he was actually underrated for the role you’d have (bench big) but it was overshadowed by recognition of his previous overratedness (as a franchise cornerstone).

Carmelo, too. At least in the sense that he played long enough for people to catch on. Both that he became underrated. I mean, he kinda did in the sense that nobody would sign him until he caught on in Portland, but I still wouldn’t have necessarily wanted him. But he still could have brought value that people would have wanted if there wasn’t the idea that it was Carmelo.
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Dwight Howard led a pretty average Orlando team to the NBA finals. Despite him not having much of an offensive repertoire, he was a fantastic player in his prime.
 
framer said:
Tracy McGrady is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. That's an easy one. . .
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TMac had the same problem Stockton and Malone had. He was never on any really talented teams. For example, on those rocket teams it was him and Yao Ming and a bunch of Duct tape. The team around him on the Magic wasn’t much either. He’s anything but overrated. If he had played in todays era, he’d be a top 5-7 player. Kobe always had high praise for him and called him Kobe’s stiffest challenge in the league.

Cptgrnlngs22 said:
If the TWolves wanna give him back I’d gladly give ‘em a couple first round picks and salary match lol. No for real though. We could use the inside presence he brings.


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No thanks. That’s what we have Kessler for. He’s put up good not great splits and is just a rookie. He’s a potential future DPOY candidate.
jazfan23 said:
When teams eventually went small against us , it was our/his kryptonite , because he was an all star , defensive player of the year we kept him out there , it killed us .
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I think this is overblown to a degree. All true bigs struggle vs small lineups. Rudy less then most. Problem is Coach Q relied on him for everything and struggled to make adjustments. That clippers playoff game wasn’t on Rudy, not even close.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
TMac had the same problem Stockton and Malone had. He was never on any really talented teams. For example, on those rocket teams it was him and Yao Ming and a bunch of Duct tape. The team around him on the Magic wasn’t much either. He’s anything but overrated. If he had played in todays era, he’d be a top 5-7 player. Kobe always had high praise for him and called him Kobe’s stiffest challenge in the league.
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They were good enough to get a 4 seed in the west, they were good enough to get out of the first round.
 
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