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seattlejazzfan said:
part of the reason his team was so bad, is that he was so bad. like he was one of the reasons they were bad. 41% FGs and 25% from three in WCC play. negative assist/to. WCC. WCC, not big ten or SEC. TS% was below the Elfrid Payton line - at pepperdine in the WCC. and he wasn't a freshman. dude just sucked.
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He's a work in progress.

6'6.25 w/o shoes, 7' wingspan, 8'8.5 standing reach, 36.5'' max vertical.

Their entire rotation was comprised of Freshman/Sophomores w/ one senior off the bench. Lorenzo Romar is a noted terrible head coach (9-22 record, 2-16 record in the PAC-12 with Fultz and Thybulle./ 5-13 in PAC-12 with McDaniels/Stewart). There's enough context there to explain the roughness and be optimistic for the future. I ranked him 23 last time I did rankings, and IDK if I can really move him up much further, but I'm more intrigued than I remember.
 
Also dont think you draft a guy like Lewis with the idea that he's going to be a dude you develop into a first/second option, but his tools are tantalizing for a role player. Shrink his role a bit, let him focus on the basics and not necessarily 1-on-1 scoring or being a primary handler.

Lewis has arguably the best tools for a more guard oriented wing outside of the lottery. According to the No Ceilings dudes, he was a 44% catch and shoot 3pt shooter. His shot looks beautiful to me. The biggest issue for him offensively was simply shot selection, but that happens when you are the best player on a terrible team with no junior/senior leadership. The No Ceilings dudes are pretty high on him and said everyone they have talked to that has seen him workout has raved about his jumper
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's a work in progress.

6'6.25 w/o shoes, 7' wingspan, 8'8.5 standing reach, 36.5'' max vertical.

Their entire rotation was comprised of Freshman/Sophomores w/ one senior off the bench. Lorenzo Romar is a noted terrible head coach (9-22 record, 2-16 record in the PAC-12 with Fultz and Thybulle./ 5-13 in PAC-12 with McDaniels/Stewart). There's enough context there to explain the roughness and be optimistic for the future. I ranked him 23 last time I did rankings, and IDK if I can really move him up much further, but I'm more intrigued than I remember.
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i mean, i guess most of these guys are works in progress. you really can't completely dismiss any of them. but i put him in the same boat as gg jackson. sure, he sucks at basketball, but since he's only a teenager, i guess he could become good. and yeah, at 28, whatevs. shoot your shot.

there will be other guys at that spot i'd rather have but the chances of anybody panning out at 28 are so slim, but why not. take him and hope for the best.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
pepperdine won 2 games total in WCC play. in one of the games lewis played a season low 22 minutes - scored 5 points on 2-5 shooting. iow, they basically won because he hardly played.

in the other game, they won in spite of him. he went 4-16 FGs for 12 points. maybe he was hurt or something down the stretch of the season. that would make me feel better about taking a guy, who when your favorite team played against his team, you wanted him in the game as and involved in the game as much as possible.

there is a reason maxwell lewis isn't talked about much. just the fact his name gets mentioned means he's talked about enough. probably more than enough.
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Yada, Yada, Yada.......tell me about his hand pads.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I'm starting to think Cam Whitmore will go at #4 or #5, and the Jazz won't have a chance to get him. Then the question will be whether it's worth still trading up to #6 for Jarace Walker, or if the Jazz are better off staying at #9. It obviously depends on how high the Jazz are on Walker.
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I think I'm in the boat where I would love to have Walker, but wouldn't want to give up significant assets to get him.
 
Walker is fine at 9, but I don't think he is worth what it takes to move up. I'd only consider giving up more than one of #9, #16, and a future first for Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Cam, or either Thompson. I'd give up 9 and 28 for Hendrix though. Otherwise just stay at 9 and pick whoever falls from above or take Walker, Black, Wallace, Bufkin, or Leonard Miller.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The guy I'm really high on that I think has the most chance of being a bust is Jarace Walker.

The guy I'm really low on that I think might end up surprising is Nick Smith Jr.
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i tend to agree with both of those. but i'm high on walker in the sense that i think you have to take him at 9 - i just feel like he has too much potential, too much going for him to pass on him there, not that i really even like him all that much.

nsj is a natural scorer - he can get his shot better than anybody in the draft. i don't like him because that shot he can get whenever he wants, doesn't go in nearly often enough. and if he's not scoring efficiently he's not doing anything else (though i feel like his defense and defensive potential might be underrated) to help a team. if he can improve his shooting, he can be tough. jamal crawford, jordan clarkson type scorer with perhaps better defense than either of those guys.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i tend to agree with both of those. but i'm high on walker in the sense that i think you have to take him at 9 - i just feel like he has too much potential, too much going for him to pass on him there, not that i really even like him all that much.

nsj is a natural scorer - he can get his shot better than anybody in the draft. i don't like him because that shot he can get whenever he wants, doesn't go in nearly often enough. and if he's not scoring efficiently he's not doing anything else (though i feel like his defense and defensive potential might be underrated) to help a team. if he can improve his shooting, he can be tough. jamal crawford, jordan clarkson type scorer with perhaps better defense than either of those guys.
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For me, I think Walker will be worth a 9th pick for sure, but it seems like he is going to go much higher than that, and if so could be considered a bust over who might get picked behind him.

For NSJ, it just seems like he was so highly regarded out of high school. I don't pay attention to high school at all, and so I've only really seen his college games and a McDonalds All American game. Based off of what I've seen, I just don't see an NBA player, but he's definitely had injury issues and he was also just a freshman, so I could just be really misreading him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Clarification... I don't think its a bad outcome more a median/average outcome that I think most would think is meh. Its just a more limited player than I would want especially since we have Kessler. Maybe Okongwu without the bad injury luck is a different player than he is now. I think its an outcome where you'd just want more.

For what its worth at summer league there were some low level Hawks FO people sitting with me and they were very chatty. I think the organization is still really high on Okongwu. Take that for what it is as the chattiest guy was real "meh" on Griffin and he had a decent rookie year.
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I still think Okongwu was a good pick and only held back by Capela (who I think he’s better than). The safe/median outcome I have in mind for Jarace is Thad Young. Thad isn’t everyone’s cup of tea and has his own fit issues, but he is also one of my favorite players.

I understand the reservations….but he just happens to remind me of lots of players I love and am biased towards so I love Jarace as a prospect.
 
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