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Is coin toss tomorrow?

I just can't believe Mark Jackson was part of this charade - he has lost all credibility in this league in my mind. Just another puppet for Lacob. Sad.
 
HipHopAnonymous said:
Is there really any indisputable evidence of this? I can see them not going balls to the wall for wins but intentionally losing games?
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The evidence against Jackson and the Warriors tanking is substantial. You need to ask yourself the question, “how would I lose a basketball game on purpose?” The only stipulation is that your players will still play hard.

1. Fake injuries to your best players and use legitimate injuries to your best players as an excuse to leave them out. 3 legitimate injuries to their best players (Curry, Bogut, Lee). **Questionable injuries: Biedrins (minor concussion out for a long time and never returned), Wright “ankle sprain”, Robinson hamstring. You don’t know how legitimate, but Biedrins’ hiatus for his injury is laughable.

2. Get rid of your most productive players. They did this and knew that Bogut was out. This is relatively legitimate.

3. Hold out players that will make a difference either for limited minutes or entire games. Held out Thompson and Jenkins for the entire fourth quarter against the Spurs and long minutes against New Orleans. First limited Rush’s and Jefferson’s minutes and then didn’t play them at all for an entire game (no injuries).

4. Start all rookies (never been done in an NBA game in the modern era). Check.

5. Play few players so that they’re tired. Played only seven players in the final game.

6. Don’t call timeouts etc. Check.

7. Sabotage the team by putting them in difficult situations from a coaching standpoint. Difficult to say on this one, but Jackson’s decisions are suspect on quite a few counts.

8. Psychology: drop sudden hints to the players and have the crowd cheer for the opposing team.

In short, there is really very little that suggests that anyone besides the players were trying not to lose. It depended on the game, but in general, it was pathetic.
 
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JJAS said:
The evidence against Jackson and the Warriors tanking is substantial. You need to ask yourself the question, “how would I lose a basketball game on purpose?” The only stipulation is that your players will still play hard.

1. Fake injuries to your best players and use legitimate injuries to your best players as an excuse to leave them out. 3 legitimate injuries to their best players (Curry, Bogut, Lee). **Questionable injuries: Biedrins (minor concussion out for a long time and never returned), Wright “ankle sprain”, Robinson hamstring. You don’t know how legitimate, but Biedrins’ hiatus for his injury is laughable.

2. Get rid of your most productive players. They did this and knew that Bogut was out. This is relatively legitimate.

3. Hold out players that will make a difference either for limited minutes or entire games. Held out Thompson and Jenkins for the entire fourth quarter against the Spurs and long minutes against New Orleans. First limited Rush’s and Jefferson’s minutes and then didn’t play them at all for an entire game (no injuries).

4. Start all rookies (never been done in an NBA game in the modern era). Check.

5. Play few players so that they’re tired. Played only seven players in the final game.

6. Don’t call timeouts etc. Check.

7. Sabotage the team by putting the in difficult situations from a coaching standpoint. Difficult to say on this one, but Jackson’s decisions are suspect on quite a few counts.

8. Psychology: drop sudden hints to the players and have the crow cheer for the opposing team.

In short, there is really very little that suggests that anyone besides the players were trying not to lose. It depended on the game, but in general, it was pathetic.
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So what exactly are you trying to say here? -David Stern.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I hope it becomes known that Mark Jackson was having extramarital affairs with transvestite hookers and has herpes all over his junk.
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There's only one gif that appropriately shows how much I love this statement.

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northeast said:
I figure 25%, based on wikipedia listed lottery odds.
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They have less balls (no pun intended) than the typical #7. You have to factor in the increased chance give. To the #8 from more balls and combine that with everyone else's chances of moving up then subtract out GS's chances of moving up.
 
okay , i see where the 29.5 comes from.
25 has got to be correct, not the 29.5, but I can't put my finger on the why the two numbers are not equal.
I'm sure Nerd can explain it.
 
infection said:
They have less balls (no pun intended) than the typical #7. You have to factor in the increased chance give. To the #8 from more balls and combine that with everyone else's chances of moving up then subtract out GS's chances of moving up.
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so the table I am using may be off for this situation.

29.5 still seems like too much a coincidence.

I still can't figure out why in the wikipedia table , the ranges of [ 8-1 to 14-3 = 29.5% ] , and [7-8 to 7-10 = 25%] are not equal.
 
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Borat said:
Last year, we had NJ pick and lost tie breaker to Kings. Granted we got fortunate with the ping pong balls later, but as far as the toss, once again we lost it:
https://www.nba.com/2011/news/04/15/draft.ties/index.html
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Year before - 2010 - we had Knicks pick, and lost tie breaker toss to Clippers.

So, I can think of 4 coin tosses we lost in last few years and 0 won. Are we going to go 0-5 today, like Raja Bell did last night? It's not that easy to lose 5 coin tosses in a row. Takes special skill that only we possess.
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I think it was 1999 (not sure) the Spurs and Jazz tied with best record so in the second round they had a coin toss and the Jazz loss. SA went on to pick Manu. So it is already 0-5.
 
margodydek said:
I call huge BS on everyone that is saying "tanking" is unfair to the fans. To a degree yes, but it really blows my mind that people even showed up to the GS/SA game last night. Why would you pay money to go watch your team try to lose? If a team is blatantly tanking, but fans are still showing up, it doesn't give them a ton of motivation to try and win.
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Perhaps people have already paid for the tickets or perhaps the people at the game love basketball and rarely have a chance to see a live NBA or people love to watch train wrecks.
 
I think the Basketball Gods are going to make this right. It is just like when a team gets a bogus foul called against them and the player misses a FT (one he should never had). This is an example of the BB Gods are work. The BB Gods are at work with MJ and the Charlotte Bobcats, MJ has to suffer years of humiliation for the "push off" and Bavetta crimes against the Jazz. Mark my word the Warriors are going to pay for their tanking either by losing the pick or picking a bad player.

Jazz will end up be blessed and will finally some day soon be rewarded for their patience with a string of NBA champions (possibly with the GS pick next year being a key part of our championship run). After today GS is second on my list of most hated teams: I still hate the Lakers worse but the gap is close.
 
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