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d@!!0n0rcutt
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Absolutely, 100 YES! Actually, I am so torn on this that it just depends in the basketball experts namely Dennis Lindsey, how big the gap they see between Exum and Wiggins, because if this deal is made tomorrow, then they really believe Andrew Wiggins is something special, and the gap on the draft big board for the Jazz was significant between Exum and Wiggins. The rumor was the Jazz draft board for the top 3 went something like this 1 Andrew Wiggins 2 Jabari Parker 3 Dantè Exum, what we don't know is how big a difference or gap between the level of talent between 1 and 3 or they would of been happy with any of these three players.
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addictionary
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Depends. It's about what you need and how you determine your needs based on your vision for your team. If you trade Hayward, you will need to fill a big hole in the rotation who can bring at least the amount of BBIQ and all aroubs skills he brought, even though they were inconsistent. Dropping Exum won't lose you too many, except the size advantage in PG position and the pace he would bring, but you won't miss him since you have the Canadian. But even he will not be able to fill Hayward's leftovers rightaway, so you would have another serious issue in your hands to trade for a solid scoring cutter forward which is not the easiest thing to find. And Trey will again be left aidless with Exum gone. If wiggins contributes right away, Hayward's absence won't be a biggie. But you will still need one for the guard spot.
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Fanbases can get really high. I might be right now. I don't know. I think perspectives can very interesting (and sometimes terrible, but isn't that dynamic the thing that keeps us all coming back and wasting our time like we are?).
QuinSnydersHair
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No and honestly, most of that is based on my gut feeling with Exum and that I truly think he is an alpha on offense (free throw line, attacking) while also believing we are going to match Hayward. If it's at the 14M figure, then (ugh) so be it. Wiggins, I'm just not so confident in.
addictionary
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Wiggins can be the next thing but he is not already it. He needs the guts to do it. Others too. You see that in Exum. I mean, look at him. The guy goes crazy attacking the rim. No fear. Shooting can be fixed. Rawness too I hope. So this trade would be a big risk.
d@!!0n0rcutt
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Wiggins was ranked ahead of Exum on the Jazz big board, I don't know how big the gap was between them in the eyes of Dennis Lindsey and company but if we were trying to move up to get Wiggins don't you think that maybe Dennis and others in the front office see something we don't, in Wiggins?! Having said that I believe Hayward + Exum > Wiggins.
Before the draft we had no inkling that Exum would fall to 5 or Dennis Lindsey probably knew from his sources around the league from what he was hearing that there was a strong chance Exum would be there at 5, and so, the so called rumor was probably kaput about 48 hours before the draft because what Dennis Lindsey knew, that he wouldn't have to trade up to get a top tier guy, that guy (Exum) would just fall right into his lap. Probably the reason it was so hard for Dennis Lindsey to hold back a smile at the press conference following the draft because if you watched the two or three press conferences before that one, Dennis looked stressed out especially with the knowledge that the top tier guys would all be gone by the 5th pick, in those press conferences between that time.
Before the draft we had no inkling that Exum would fall to 5 or Dennis Lindsey probably knew from his sources around the league from what he was hearing that there was a strong chance Exum would be there at 5, and so, the so called rumor was probably kaput about 48 hours before the draft because what Dennis Lindsey knew, that he wouldn't have to trade up to get a top tier guy, that guy (Exum) would just fall right into his lap. Probably the reason it was so hard for Dennis Lindsey to hold back a smile at the press conference following the draft because if you watched the two or three press conferences before that one, Dennis looked stressed out especially with the knowledge that the top tier guys would all be gone by the 5th pick, in those press conferences between that time.
Twin Towers
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Exum could be the better player...........And I don't think Wiggins is leaps and bounds above anyone. I don't think he is a Lebron, Wade, Kobe etc. He is not even close. So far away. I don't see Wiggins as even above Exum on being the better player in the future.
Would I trade Exum for Wiggins straight up........Ya I would but its not something I am 100% in. So adding Hayward into the mix also?
Dealer breaker. Too much for Wiggins.
Would I trade Exum for Wiggins straight up........Ya I would but its not something I am 100% in. So adding Hayward into the mix also?
Dealer breaker. Too much for Wiggins.
That1UtahFan
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That was with the assumption that the #5 was going to end up being either Aaron Gordon or Vonleh (maybe Embiid). All of the draft experts had Embiid, Wiggins, Parker and Exum in that Tier 1. If that's true then the Jazz got a Tier 1 player no need to exchange one tier 1 player for another + Hayward. If draft night would have gone down like everyone thought it would with Exum going to either the 76ers or Magic then this would be a whole different scenario and we would be talking about trading A Gordon or Vonleh + Hayward for Wiggins. But how it played out with us ending up with Exum there's no reason to go trade him.
addictionary
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You have an apple in your hands and an apple hanging up in the tree. Which one fills your stomach?
Which team has a better chance at winning a title?
Burke
Burks
Wiggins
Kanter
Favors
or
Burke
Exum
Hayward
Kanter
Favors
Your question pretty much answers itself...
Burke
Burks
Wiggins
Kanter
Favors
or
Burke
Exum
Hayward
Kanter
Favors
Your question pretty much answers itself...
Exactly......
I was pro-Gordon and wasn't surprised that he went before Exum. Actually, I would still draft Gordon if both were available at 5 and I believe there are jazzfanzers that would to the same. So I'd trade only the 5th pick plus one of the Favors/Burks/Kanter/Hayward(he wasn't tradeable though) or whoever for Wiggins. But I wouldn't trade both 5th and 23rd picks and one of the main guys for JP and I stated that when that rumors were around.
Ive spent too long hyping Exum in my head. That said, if we got Wiggins, it would be pretty easy for me to do the same thing.
Indifferent.
Indifferent.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Give me by far the best player in the draft, Wiggins.
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The second group would have Burks off the bench. And it's assuming Wiggins is going to be much better than Exum. It could very well end up being the other way around. Tough call.
gregbroncs
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I would have traded 5 and Hayward for Wiggins before the draft. I know it was not possible.
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I'm not as sure about Exum. Really I don't know enough about him. I did not expect him to be there for the Jazz. To me it really would depend on how much Hayward will cost. If he can be had at 9-11 M I don't make this trade. If he will cost 12+ I probably do. Because at 12+ it basically is Exum for Wiggins for me, because I would not match Hayward at 12+ anyway.
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I'm not as sure about Exum. Really I don't know enough about him. I did not expect him to be there for the Jazz. To me it really would depend on how much Hayward will cost. If he can be had at 9-11 M I don't make this trade. If he will cost 12+ I probably do. Because at 12+ it basically is Exum for Wiggins for me, because I would not match Hayward at 12+ anyway.