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    Quote Originally Posted by spycam1 View Post
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    PKM's not online so I'll have to step in...

    Rondo = amazing leader

    Demands the absolute best of everyone around him at all times...almost to a fault.
    Almost? Since when is pushing a HOFer with gas in the tank off a team ALMOST a fault?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
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    Almost? Since when is pushing a HOFer with gas in the tank off a team ALMOST a fault?
    Don't be a nancy.
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    I think everyone would like to watch this

    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM View Post
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    Don't ruin an empirically disproven narrative.
    I'll try to stay in line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    I think everyone would like to watch this

    Way to much hero ball for my liking. That stuff don't fly in the NBA unless you have elite size or athleticism - CJ has neither. I'll stick to my ceiling of Ben Gordon, and you don't want to know the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz4ever View Post
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    Way to much hero ball for my liking. That stuff don't fly in the NBA unless you have elite size or athleticism - CJ has neither. I'll stick to my ceiling of Ben Gordon, and you don't want to know the floor.
    Ben Gordon wishes he had that handle, but I guess I can see the comparison. I would be happy with any of the four PGs in this draft. It reminds me of the Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Eric Maynor year.

    Kind of unfortunate for them that every team in the NBA already has a PG. Good for the Jazz though.

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    I kind of disagree. We have some very nice future pieces, maybe even great pieces. What we do not have, imo, is a an absolute leader. I think for this team to come together and gel .. to have that team chemistry most championship teams develop, someone will need to emerge as the 'the' guy. I don't see that person on this team and I don't see that person in this draft.

    Nash, Paul, Rondo .. these guys make their teammates work harder, focus on a team goal, play hard, and play together.

    This is why I like Burke best, I think he's the most mentally strong..
    Yeah I do agree as well.

    It reminds me of when a reporter asks Phil Jackson whether Chris Paul or DWill was better (This was about 2-3 years ago when DWill was with Jazz and Paul was with Hornets). Phil's answer was: He'd rather NOT face Chris Paul as an opponent. But, he'd rather have DWill running his team.

    I think the point was, he'd rather have somebody who he can trust in managing his team, controlling the offense, etc.

    This is why I think Burke is the better choice as well. He's not flashy in the way that MCW can pass or McCollum can shoot or Smart can score/rebound/steal/defend. Burke just seems to have a "steady-ness" quality about him. He's not flashy - but he'll give you a steady hand at the point, feed the open man, shoot the occasional 3's and does it with very low TO's.

    If we're picking #18 and we pick him, I think it's a good pick for us.
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    Yeah I do agree as well.

    It reminds me of when a reporter asks Phil Jackson whether Chris Paul or DWill was better (This was about 2-3 years ago when DWill was with Jazz and Paul was with Hornets). Phil's answer was: He'd rather NOT face Chris Paul as an opponent. But, he'd rather have DWill running his team.

    I think the point was, he'd rather have somebody who he can trust in managing his team, controlling the offense, etc.

    This is why I think Burke is the better choice as well. He's not flashy in the way that MCW can pass or McCollum can shoot or Smart can score/rebound/steal/defend. Burke just seems to have a "steady-ness" quality about him. He's not flashy - but he'll give you a steady hand at the point, feed the open man, shoot the occasional 3's and does it with very low TO's.

    If we're picking #18 and we pick him, I think it's a good pick for us.
    I don't think anyone would argue against that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spycam1 View Post
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    PKM's not online so I'll have to step in...

    Rondo = amazing leader

    Demands the absolute best of everyone around him at all times...almost to a fault.
    Well, I live near the Boston area and I have heard many things to dispute your opinion. Rondo has a quirky personality off the court and early in his career he was difficult to manage. If he wasn't so talented the Celtics would have traded him. There for a while even the fan base was ready to trade him. He has butted heads with KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. A contributing factor why Ray Allen left Boston was because of his strained relationship with Rondo. Rondo has been suspended a few times costing his team games.

    Winning a championship doesn't make you a great leader, his talent helped win a championship not his "great" leadership. I do think Rondo is not as bad as he was when he came into the league but he is still hard headed about certain things. There is no doubt the kid has talent and works his butt off but leadership is more than working hard. Currently, I do not think it is Rondo's strong point. It is kind of like his jump shot, average and erratic but improving.

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    Yea I would be happy with Burke at 18.

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