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    And Andy Reid is now officially available. ;-)
    "Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant." --Matthew 20:25-27

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    That Van Noy news is awesome. After the Utah State game, I remember somebody on a BYU message board saying that they saw him busing tables right after the game at a restaurant....so the fans are there stuffing their faces and acting like they just won the lottery in celebration of a football game they watched from the stands, meanwhile the star of the team is cleaning up their messes on a Friday night after he is probably exhausted while his buddies are probably out celebrating with the Mormon version of groupies. Kid's a stud. And a pleasure to watch. And what that story also tells us is that he has no reason financially to remain at BYU, and probably could use the NFL money. He's just enjoying the experience enough that he doesn't want to give up a year of college football or let his buddies down.

    Hoffman coming back is good too...... but it was more expected.
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    Bad move. For both. Hoffman should just go. He had a good enough year. Just go.

    I feel horrible for Van Noy. That kid is only hurting his chances of becoming well off financially. He should go to the NFL. He isn't getting any younger and I doubt his draft stock will increase enough to justify staying another year in college. Jump while you still can and make as much dinheiro as possible. Finish your degree later after you're financially set and don't have to bus tables anymore.

    while both coming back is good news for BYU. I don't see much improvement from this team unless they finally get an offensive line and finally dump Doman for a real coordinator. that BYU offense might be even worse than Crowton's last year. Horribly inept.... If anything Van Noy's stock will drop by staying another year.
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    I think now that KVN and Hoffman are already on scouts radar they wont be hurt by coming back. Unless they get hurt literally. Moving just a few spots up in a NFL draft can make a huge monetary difference.

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    Barring injury, coming back will pay dividends on many fronts. I'd like to see them both get insurance policies.

    I know there was a Notre Dame guy that would be lottery pick that is staying, too. Said he watched what the seniors experience and wanted that.
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    Zero chance Van Noys stock improves from where it's at now.

    Zero chance Hoffman gets drafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
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    Zero chance Van Noys stock improves from where it's at now.

    Zero chance Hoffman gets drafted.
    I will take the Hoffman bet kind sir .....

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    Van Noy could easily be a early first rounder with 10-20 lbs added and similar production next year. If Rob Morris can go 28th in a draft, Van Noy can go earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartsock View Post
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    I will take the Hoffman bet kind sir .....
    Where was he projected to go if he came out this year?
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    Y'all are getting a little too excited.

    Remember when Matt Reynolds was a sure fire 1st Rounder??
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