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    By the way, I sent that from my laptop you tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
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    Bwahahahahahaha...okay Salty. Colorado (3-10) and Washington State (4-8) were great last year...a tiny bit better yes, but still crappy as all while UCLA and Oregon State were a million times ****tier and have improved a ton.

    You're a ****ing joke, the Utes suck and you would have lost your FSU/Utah bet if you weren't such a bitch about it. Now go fight Conan.
    Last year Montana State was probably the best FBS team. If they weren't the best, they were at least in the discussion. MUCH better than this year's Northern Colorado.

    Last year Colorado BEAT Utah. Even though they sucked, they were clearly better than this year's Colorado team. Incidentally, Colorado just set school futility records for not winning a single home game and only winning 1 game overall. Clearly, they were much worse than last season.

    In fact, the only game they won this year was at Washington State. That's how bad Washington State was this year. Clearly, they were much worse than they were last year.

    UCLA won the division last year. Not sure they were all that much better this year. They just played crappier teams this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CONAN View Post
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    Agree to disagree there. I think if you had a Pac12 draft based solely on talent then Utah would not be picked above OSU, UCLA, or Washington.


    I'd like to see the stats to back that up please.


    But you are trying to downplay the importance of talent and you mentioned the last 2 years of recruiting like every team out there should be great after 2 years of recruiting.

    Look, it's fine if you want to blame the coaches. They are most at blame. But to claim a lack of talent hasn't been a big factor for the Utes versus the Pac12 is just haterism or something. And I get that. If I remember right you're the guy that blames Sloan for everything, too. So no surprises here.
    Washington and UCLA are far superior based on pure talent, they have quite a few top 100 recruits on both those squads, for some reason they always underperforn though. Utah is probably on par with OSU at best just based on pure talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
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    By the way, I sent that from my laptop you tool.
    Good for you. Next you can brag about your 13" black and white tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
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    Washington and UCLA are far superior based on pure talent, they have quite a few top 100 recruits on both those squads, for some reason they always underperforn though. Utah is probably on par with OSU at best just based on pure talent.
    So Utah, who isn't going to a bowl game, is on par with the team currently tanned #15 in the BCS rankings. Talent is not the big issue it's been made out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Last year Montana State was probably the best FBS team. If they weren't the best, they were at least in the discussion. MUCH better than this year's Northern Colorado.

    Last year Colorado BEAT Utah. Even though they sucked, they were clearly better than this year's Colorado team. Incidentally, Colorado just set school futility records for not winning a single home game and only winning 1 game overall. Clearly, they were much worse than last season.

    In fact, the only game they won this year was at Washington State. That's how bad Washington State was this year. Clearly, they were much worse than they were last year.

    UCLA won the division last year. Not sure they were all that much better this year. They just played crappier teams this year.
    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Good for you. Next you can brag about your 13" black and white tv.
    Cut and paste.

    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
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    Pathetic.
    The only thing pathetic about it is that some douche bag would deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    The only thing pathetic about it is that some douche bag would deny it.
    True. UCLA at 6-8 last year was just as good as this year's squad who beat three ranked teams in Nebraska, USC and Arizona and is in the PAC-12 Championship game. And Oregon State who was 3-9 was just as good as this year's 8-3 team. That makes sense.

    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp Rosetti View Post
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    True. UCLA at 6-8 last year was just as good as this year's squad who beat three ranked teams in Nebraska, USC and Arizona and is in the PAC-12 Championship game. And Oregon State who was 3-9 was just as good as this year's 8-3 team. That makes sense.

    Pathetic.
    I didn't say Oregon State was just as good last year. Reading comprehension issues?

    Arizona and USC aren't currently, and won't finish ranked. They beat 1 ranked team this year, Nebraska. They may have been slightly better this year, but not very much.

    In any case, Utah played them close, only losing by 7 at UCLA. So either UCLA isn't as great as you're making them out to be, or Utah isn't as bad as you're making them out to be.

    Utah clearly declined. UCLA faced an easier opponent this season than they did last season.

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