View Poll Results: Would you have traded Hayward, Burks, and the Golden State Pick for Harden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
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    To be honest, i think if the jazz did land harden they would not know how to use him correctly..... he would still get minutes and decent stats but he would be held back by our coaching/system and probably average around 18 pts a game, instead of the 25-30 he is capable of.
    If that's the case, then we're screwed anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowhide View Post
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    Well if Harden keeps playing like this, there will be a lot of people who would want to change their vote including me. I thought he was a very good player but he certainly is showing he can be a great player. Some people think all the Jazz have to do is talk and people will give them what they want. How does anyone know if the Jazz attempted to get him or not?
    We don't know, but I think we could have offered them close if not better to what OKC got. Everything we mention from here on out sounds silly since we know what he can do, so the only thing we can do is compare it to what OKC got. Can you imagine OKC with this year's Harden, Westbrook, Durant, and Ibaka. That is one hell of a closing 4. Would have been the best pg/wing combo in the entire NBA coupled with the leading shot blocker in the league and Perkins (he sucks).

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    This is much tougher to handle than the Gasol trade.
    "Adversity is opportunity in disguise."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
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    This is much tougher to handle than the Gasol trade.
    It is for me since we were in a fantastic position to make a move. We had assets, picks, expiring contracts, young promising players, everything. Players like Harden do not come around very often at all. Hopefully, with our financial flexibility, we can strike gold like Houston!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJAS View Post
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    It is for me since we were in a fantastic position to make a move. We had assets, picks, expiring contracts, young promising players, everything. Players like Harden do not come around very often at all. Hopefully, with our financial flexibility, we can strike gold like Houston!
    What were YOU willing to give up after Kanter's preseason though? The only member who really stepped up was billyshelby. I didn't even set myself onto a cut branch. Neither did NUMBERICA (crediting his post commentary).


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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    What were YOU willing to give up after Kanter's preseason though? The only member who really stepped up was billyshelby. I didn't even set myself onto a cut branch. Neither did NUMBERICA (crediting his post commentary).
    I would have offered anyone but Favors and Kanter in any combination (trying to not have hindsight here), our GS pick, our #1 and #2 picks, cash, the rights to Ante Tomic, Free passes to Snowbird, and Karl Malone's mother's secret fried chicken recipe.

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    I notice that the ratio is now moving up 15/35.

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    There are deals we should have turned down for Harden. But not many. We'll never know what we turned down, but we definitely had more to offer than Houston. My guess is Jazz management is still highly confused as to the Favors/Kanter upside. If they truly believed in one, they would have dealt Hayward/the Unchosen for Harden. And that should have gotten a deal done. But they don't have that read so they let the deal go. I can't totally blame them in that specific circumstance if that's what they were up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
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    To be honest, i think if the jazz did land harden they would not know how to use him correctly..... he would still get minutes and decent stats but he would be held back by our coaching/system and probably average around 18 pts a game, instead of the 25-30 he is capable of.
    Thats probably true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
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    There are deals we should have turned down for Harden. But not many. We'll never know what we turned down, but we definitely had more to offer than Houston. My guess is Jazz management is still highly confused as to the Favors/Kanter upside. If they truly believed in one, they would have dealt Hayward/the Unchosen for Harden. And that should have gotten a deal done. But they don't have that read so they let the deal go. I can't totally blame them in that specific circumstance if that's what they were up against.

    Best part of this post: "jazz management is still highly confused as to the favors/kanter upside".
    Hard to know what you have in a player when all they do is sit on the bench.

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