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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
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    You're preaching to the choir. I think Burks should be in, and the debate should be about which two of Tinsley, Carroll, and Foye should get to play. Foye has been making a pretty good case, honestly. Tinsley still has his usefulness, too. And Carroll.

    It's interesting. But I think that all things considered, Burks deserves the nod until he proves he's not deserving. Not giving him a chance is ****ing criminal.
    I want Burks to play more like many of us here do, though I don't really like that logic. It's as bad as playing veterans just because they're veterans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck View Post
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    Have you even looked at Foye's history as a PG? His assist rate is terrible as a PG compared to bad passing PGs in the league.

    He's a BAD POINT GUARD. History says this. He's a GOOD SHOOTING GUARD. Why do you want to turn a good player into a bad one?
    He may be a bad point guard, but Tinsley is a terrible point guard these days. Foye couldn't possibly be any worse. At least the defense would have to guard him. He deserves a chance in the Jazz system.

    Plus, that would allow Burks to play, who is also much better than Tinsley and will get even better with minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    He may be a bad point guard, but Tinsley is a terrible point guard these days. Foye couldn't possibly be any worse. At least the defense would have to guard him. He deserves a chance in the Jazz system.

    Plus, that would allow Burks to play, who is also much better than Tinsley and will get even better with minutes.
    I dont think you understand that sometimes putting 5 guys out there who are shoot first players is a bad idea. Not saying Tinsley isn't bad but he serves a purpose, bring the ball up and "attempt" give other player scoring opportunities. Burks and Foye don't do that, they shouldn't have to do that, its not their game. Tinsley could certainly be upgraded but I see what Ty is trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
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    I dont think you understand that sometimes putting 5 guys out there who are shoot first players is a bad idea. Not saying Tinsley isn't bad but he serves a purpose, bring the ball up and "attempt" give other player scoring opportunities. Burks and Foye don't do that, they shouldn't have to do that, its not their game. Tinsley could certainly be upgraded but I see what Ty is trying to do.
    Foye absolutely has done that throughout his career. He may not have averaged 12 assists per game at any point, but he's never had a problem getting the ball across half court abs passing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Foye absolutely has done that throughout his career. He may not have averaged 12 assists per game at any point, but he's never had a problem getting the ball across half court abs passing it.
    Foye doesnt want to do that either man, he wants to shoot the freaking ball, a lot, thats his skill. Tinsley is an underrated passer, he controls the game, he cant shoot, score, or play d but he is a pretty good passer. He can get others involved, or at least he used to be able to. All I'm saying is Burks is not a PG at all, not even a little bit. An Foye is not much of a PG either. Tinsley is 100% PG, he is not great anymore but he doesn't screw everything up when he goes in the game either.

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    I can see why some would want Foye/Burks at PG instead of Tinsley, but consistency is going to suffer greatly for the 2nd unit if that happens. I would predict the 2nd unit offense would have games were it was just ugly basketball all the time. I think Tinsley brings a calming effect to the 2nd unit that is usually needed.

    I would be interested in trying it out though just to see what happens. I would assume it would work some games, but I would also think we would have a lot more quick shots and just flat out wasted possessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
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    Foye doesnt want to do that either man, he wants to shoot the freaking ball, a lot, thats his skill. Tinsley is an underrated passer, he controls the game, he cant shoot, score, or play d but he is a pretty good passer. He can get others involved, or at least he used to be able to. All I'm saying is Burks is not a PG at all, not even a little bit. An Foye is not much of a PG either. Tinsley is 100% PG, he is not great anymore but he doesn't screw everything up when he goes in the game either.
    If Foye doesn't want to, then let Burks.

    Anyone can bring the ball across half court and then pass it to someone else. That is all Tinsley does these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    If Foye doesn't want to, then let Burks.

    Anyone can bring the ball across half court and then pass it to someone else. That is all Tinsley does these days.
    You clearly dont understand basketball. If that was all a PG did then there would be no such thing as a PG. We will just have to agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennykyle View Post
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    You clearly dont understand basketball. If that was all a PG did then there would be no such thing as a PG. We will just have to agree to disagree.
    I fully understand that a pg generally does more than that. My point is that Tinsley, at this stage of his career, is NOT doing more than that. He was washed up (and out of the league) several years ago.

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    it'll be fun when Watson will come from his injury

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